Talk:Battle of Verneuil

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Andyvphil in topic Scots army

conflicting data

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How come the battle box says it was fought in Gascony, but the article says Normandy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.13 (talk) 00:15, 12 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Box also says Normandy, now. Andyvphil (talk) 01:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Conflicting dates

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April or August!! Quality check please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mstimson (talkcontribs) 09:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Only "April" now in article is arrival of the Scots. Andyvphil (talk) 01:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Scots army

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The article claims that the Scots army, though mauled, was not yet ready to march out of history. What precisely does this mean? Were the Scots a factor in the French resurgence under Joan of Arc, for instance, as is claimed by some sources?

The 'Army of Scotland' -rather than the 'Scot's Army'-was a specific formation in the French royal service at the time of Verneuil. The survivors-supplemented by fresh recruits-continued to take part in French miltary operations up to, and including, the defence of Orleans, under the command of John Stewart of Darnley. On 12 February 1429 Darnley and his men intercepted an English supply column at a place called Rouvray St. Dennis, some 20 miles to the north of Orleans. In the ensuing 'Battle of the Herrings' many of the Scots were killed, including Darnley. From this point the Army of Scotland ceased to function as a seperate element in the French royal service, though individual Scots continued to serve in much smaller units from this point forward. They were incorporated into the Scots Guards in the 1440s. Rcpaterson 23:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)Reply


The role of the Italian mecenary forces in this battle were lightly touched upon. The effects of new Italian armour against English archers is described in the following website http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/W/weapons/armour2.html64.229.205.254 03:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

dead link. Andyvphil (talk) 01:30, 29 March 2014 (UTC)Reply


And too much focus is put of the Scottish troops present. There are few sources to suggest the scale of the Scottish contribution let alone their casualties, alleged to be two thirds of the total number of casualties in the article. This crucial because it was after all a French battle and this could simply be an attempt to deflect attention from the French and Italian soldiers in what was clearly a humiliating defeat. The latter are only mentioned in parenthesis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.219.199 (talk) 10:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Erm refs?

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Erm? As the above suggests. Who is Barker that is cited but not referred to? Also, note 7, Un autre Azincourt, who said that, where and when? Brendandh (talk) 05:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)Reply