Talk:Battle of Paardeberg

Latest comment: 6 years ago by PBS in topic Doyle supported quote

No Commonwealth edit

There was no commonwealth during the Boer War, only the Empire (which the dominions were part of).say1988 02:10, 9 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Bloody Sunday edit

Please may readers know the source for your name 'Bloody sunday'. I have been researching the South African War for several years and have not come across it in either primary or secondary sources. I have some interest as you will see from my Wikipedia pen name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paardeberg (talkcontribs) 11:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Battle of Colenso edit

The Battle of Colenso mentioned in the introduction, was fought on a completely different front. It was fought in Natal in an effort to relieve besieged Ladysmith. It therefore should not feature as one of the battles fought during the British march to relieve Kimberley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.151.114.238 (talk) 20:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Doyle supported quote edit

The article states:

As the sun came up on the morning of Monday, 19 February, General Roberts arrived on the scene. He initially urged a resumption of the frontal assaults, but Cronjé requested a cease-fire to bury the dead. The British refused and Cronjé replied "If you are so uncharitable as to refuse me a truce as requested, then you may do as you please. I shall not surrender alive. Bombard as you will".

From:

  • Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan (1904). The Official History of the Second South African War. London. p. [page needed].{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

The source below says of the same incident:

For a moment it seemed as if his courage was giving way. On Monday morning a message was transmitted by him to Lord Kitchener asking for a twenty-four hours’ armistice. The answer was of course a curt refusal. To this he replied that if we were so inhuman as to prevent him from burying his dead there was nothing for him save surrender. An answer was given that a messenger with power to treat should be sent out, but in the interval Cronje had changed his mind, and disappeared with a snarl of contempt into his burrows. It had become known that women and children were in the laager, and a message was sent offering them a place of safety, but even to this a refusal was given. The reasons for this last decision are inconceivable.

  • Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan. “19”, The Great Boer War at Project Gutenberg

The tone of these two are very different in tone, even though they do not contradict each other. Is the first one by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle or someone else. Which ever the case a page number is needed for the former. -- PBS (talk) 18:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have changed the citation for a new one:

  • Heaton, Colin; Lewis, Anne-Marie (2014). Four-War Boer: The Century and Life of Pieter Arnoldus Krueler. Casemate. pp. 68–69. ISBN 978-1-61200-175-3.

The Heaton Lewis supports the paragraph and I have included page numbers and a link. -- PBS (talk) 19:12, 24 October 2017‎ (UTC)