Talk:Battle of Monterey

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Ridiculous assertion. This never was a battle. The article quite clear states so and an investigation of the logs by the Mexican commander will find likewise. Any shots fired were mostly likely a distraction, or diversion ordered by the governor. The governor had left town before the troops arrived and a note in the Encyclopedia of the Mexican-American War states:

(..)Captain Mariano Silva, the miltary commandant, reponded that he did not have the authority to surrender the town.

meatclerk 17:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

The "controversy" section needs to go - This article states that Sloat was not authorized to attack any portion of California. However, the article on Sloat states: "In 1844 he was appointed to command the Pacific Squadron, and in 1845, as tensions with Mexico grew, he was instructed to land in Alta California and claim it for the United States if war broke out." So, it seems like he was authorized. Or, perhaps this article is alluding that he was supposed to land troops and take california without fighting? Laughable notion, though it may be what actually transpired.

Something off here edit

I would look this up in my own copy of the source but unfortunately during my move it is in storage.

Were "The main forces available to the United States in California were the about 400-500 bluejacket sailors and U.S. Marines on board the five ships of the Pacific Squadron there." sent upon the "Speculating that war with Mexico over Texas etc. was very possible, the U.S. Navy" therefore just when did "had sent several additional naval vessels to the Pacific in 1845 and 1846 to protect U.S. interests there and prevent possible British action."

The, "On 26 May [year], Commodore Sloat received word of the Battle of Palo Alto and the Battle of Resaca de la Palma, upon which he sent a coded message to Secretary of the Navy George Bancroft that he was leaving for California." from where? "Sloat sailed on the frigate Savannah on 8 June, arriving Monterey on 1 July."

They joined the sloop USS Cyane which was already there." since when? "There were U.S. fears that the British might try to annex California to satisfy British creditors." whose debt, Mexico? "The British Pacific Station's ships off California were stronger in ships, guns and men."

I just love some of Bancroft's literary expressions one of which sticks to me like slushy snow that, as I paraphrase, rivers were established in places for cities. As if rivers had the responsibility to locate themselves for development.GinAndChronically (talk) 04:05, 16 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Size of Los Angeles? edit

The article "California Batallion" gives the number of residents for Pueblo de Los Angeles as 3000, that's a big discrepancy and needs to be resolved... --5.146.47.75 (talk) 10:59, 28 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Source for the name "Battle of Monterey"? edit

Is there a reliable source for the name "Battle of Monterey"? This seems like a strange name because it was not a battle. I have checked the following sources, and though they all describe this event, none of them call it the "Battle of Monterey" or use the word "battle" at all:

  • K. Jack Bauer, The Mexican War, 1846–1848, 1974.
  • Andrew Rolle, California: A History, sixth edition, 2003.
  • Kevin Starr, California: A History, 2005.
  • Dale L. Walker, Bear Flag Rising: The Conquest of California, 1846, 1999.

Most results of a Web search for the phrase "Battle of Monterey", apart from this article and pages that seem to have been copied from it, are actually about the Battle of Monterrey in Mexico.

Unless the name "Battle of Monterey" is commonly used by reliable sources, I think we should probably choose a different title for this article. If there is no single commonly used name for this event, then the article title can be descriptive ("Capture of Monterey" or something), but it seems strange to call it a "battle". See also WP:TITLE. —Bkell (talk) 19:27, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply