Talk:Battle of Karasounk

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Kansas Bear in topic Article contains WP:OR

Article contains WP:OR edit

This source is incorrectly cited;

  • F. Macler, Armenia, The Kingdom of the Bagratides, The Cambridge Ancient History, vol. IV, p. 158

It should be

  • Macler, Frederic. "Armenia". In Tanner, J.R.; Previte-Orton, C.W.; Brooke, Z.N. (eds.). The Cambridge Medieval History. Vol. IV: The Eastern Roman Empire (717-1453). p. 158.

A list of the original research cited to The Cambridge Medieval History, Volume IV, page 158;

There is no mention of the battle of Karasounk
There no mention of the number of troops at Karasounk
"The Armenians defeated the 80,000 Muslims decisively on the shores of the Araxes." The Macler source does not state anything about defeating 80,000 muslims on the shores of the Araxes.
  • Lang, David Marshall (1970). Armenia: cradle of civilization. SOAS University of London. p. 46.
This book makes no mention of Karasounk.
"At the end of the battle the caliph of the Abbasids Al-Musta'in bi-llah granted Ashot the title of "Prince of Princes of Armenia, of Georgia and of the lands of the Caucasus. The Lang source does not state anything about any battle. And the mention of the caliph granting Ashot a title in 862 is on page 188, not 46.

As such this article should be deleted or moved to draft space. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:17, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply