Talk:Baroda State

Area

Two wikipedia article are off by a factor of ten on this. This article says it was about 1,300 square miles, while the Princely state article gives more than ten times that - almost 14,000 square miles. Which is correct? john k (talk) 19:28, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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'Princely State' versus 'Independent State'

This article is about the state of Baroda from its inception in 1721 to its merger with India. Since the period of the state's existence precedes its vassalage to the British raj (i.e., when it became a "princely state" - a vassal state by its very definition), it is inappropriate to characterize it as "princely state". Rather, it should be characterized as a former independent state. If no objections, I will make the change in a few days. Deccantrap (talk) 19:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Koli Rebellion Against Baroda State

Deccantrap. The following text was removed by me:The Koli rebellion was led by two brothers Nathaji Patel And Yamaji Patel, chiefs of Chandap Taluq. During the great Indian Rebellion of 1857, the kolis of chandap under nathaji and yamaji planing for revolt and gaekwad of baroda received that news. So gaekwad Stationed his cavalry at chandap to control the rebels. But cavalry of gaekwad was killed and thrown out by kolis of chandap. After That kolis went into hills continued their rebellion for few months. In the end of October 1857, the combined forces of British and baroda attacked at kolis and burnt the chandap village.

First, in context of the whole article, the Koli rebellion should be covered in a sentence or two. The article covers everything (including whole history) related to Baroda state so a separate section on a single incident is unnecessary. The reference/link without page number above mentions only following: The Koli rising in Chandap village of adjacent Sabarkantha district affected the law and order situation in Vijapur, Vadnagar and Kheralu areas of the district. The Koli rising in Taranga hills was also due to the Revolt of 1857. It does not mention Nathaji or Yamaji or cavalry of gaekwad was killed and thrown out by kolis or burnt the chandap village. In short, all information in section was not supported by the reference provided. So the section was removed. There was some issue with grammar as well. I am OK with a sentence on the rebellion in the history section with referenced information. Hope it clarifies. Thank you asking here about the removal. Keep contributing. Regards, -Nizil (talk) 05:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I searched for information on the incident. There is a good amount of detailed information here. (pp. 142-146) Go through it. You may create a separate article (Suggested title: Chandap rebellion) on the incident based on this reference. We could link it here later in a sentence on the incident. But write neutrally and only based on reference. Ask for help if you require. Good luck.-Nizil (talk) 05:47, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good Nizil Shah I will work on this over the suggested merger of the Koli rebellion in the main history in a sentence of two over the weekend, unless you/someone else gets to it earlier.Deccantrap (talk) 03:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

I will keep an eye. Go ahead yourself. Please create Draft article using WP:DRAFTS. After work on an article is over, it can be assessed/improved and published. You can ping me using {{u|Nizil Shah}}. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 05:08, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Copyright violations in the article

Several chunks of text under Baroda State § History have been copy-pasted verbatim from the following external sources - this, this, and this. This appears to violate copyrights of the source material. Interested editors are invited to make the necessary amendments to Baroda State § History or offer reasoning why the material is not in violation of WP:C. If no changes are made or rationale offered over a couple of days, portions of text that infringe copyrights will be deleted.Deccantrap (talk) 00:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)