Talk:Barnevelder

Chickenbreed Infobox

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Copyediting and Formatting

Howdy,
I plan to start editing this page. My list of major anticipated edits is as follows:

• Add citations to Chicken Breeds Infobox
  
• Add citations to Introduction and Characteristics section
  
• Reformat varieties section as a table
  
• Edit Characteristics and Double-laced pattern sections for style
  

I will be keeping an ongoing list of minor edits and potential major edits on my personal Talk page. Once the list is more fleshed out, I will publish it here. McCoppin (talk) 06:04, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, it could certainly do with some work, McCoppin! But why don't you just go ahead and edit the article? Do you read Dutch? – that would certainly be a help here, but this, which is the most useful source I found in a brief search, is also available in English. In my opinion, the Varieties section is too large, too detailed, and especially too poorly referenced – rather than a table, it could perhaps become a paragraph of running text? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, Justlettersandnumbers! Unfortunately, I don't read Dutch. Because of this, I doubt I will be able to add all of the necessary citations, but I will try to add as many as I can. I think you're right about the Varieties section as well; I'll see what I can take out or condense. McCoppin (talk) 15:18, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Justlettersandnumbers I made some major edits to the Varieties section, so I figured I should post it here before putting it into the article. I've trimmed it down to a paragraph of running text and deleted quite a bit of information. If the following edits are acceptable, I will go ahead and put them into the article:

"The original and most well-known Barnevelder variety is the double-laced variety, which has a single vertical comb and yellow legs, but other varieties also exist. There are large fowl as well as bantam versions of most of the different varieties. The double-laced, black, white, autosexing barred, dark brown, chamois, double-laced blue, and silver-black double-laced varieties have large fowl and bantam versions. The partridge, blue, and silver varieties have only large fowl versions. Not all countries recognize all these varieties in their Poultry Standards.[6][7][8][9]"

It looks like an improvement, McCoppin. The colours recognised in the various European countries are listed in this source:

• Liste des races et variétés homologuée dans les pays EE (28.04.2013). Entente Européenne d’Aviculture et de Cuniculture. Archived 16 June 2013.

It looks as if you may still have too many listed. I think the double-laced silver may not yet be recognised, but I haven't looked in detail. Have to go now … Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and thank you for checking here before making your changes, but you know you really don't need to! I 'm not sure if anyone else is watching this page, but if by any chance I don't exactly agree with something you do, I'll almost certainly say so! Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:05, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

References?

A suggestion to make editing this page a little easier: what if we change the referencing system over to list-defined? That would take the references out of the body text and group them in the References section; they'd all need a ref name such as <ref name=ee>; all that would then appear in the body text would be either <ref name=ee /> or – still more economical – {{r|ee}}. That would make the text a lot easier to read, specially where there are a large number of references. I won't make this change without agreement here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:58, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea to me, Justlettersandnumbers. I don't know much about that style of references, but it would make editing easier. McCoppin (talk) 06:38, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

OK, I went ahead and did that, hope it helps. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2017 (UTC)