Talk:Baritone guitar

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this originally redirected to guitar, which proved quite unhelpful. all the stuff i have on here is just found off of the internet, so this article could really use an expert on the subject. Joeyramoney 03:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Added some clarification about tunings and function in country music. Removed incorrect information about the Fender Bass VI. 139.55.36.154 23:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Should the Cure be mentioned in here at all? They used a bari guitar extensively on "Disintegration". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.135.127.230 (talk) 15:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

It's probably worth mentioning that a "fifth down" baritone guitar and a "normal" guitar are combined rangewise on 7-string guitars (added bottom B) which are getting more and more common these days. I'd personally even call it the only really surviving (even common) "evolutionary step" from baritone. 85.23.51.77 (talk) 12:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

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74.95.43.249 (talk) 21:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Strumming a bass.

Can you play a bass guitar as a Baritone (either with a 6 string bass or a 4/5).(Morcus (talk) 15:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC))

Certainly. The four-string bass was employed by The Ventures for solo lines and two-note chords at least by Bob Bogle (originally the band's lead guitarist) in the early 1960s. More recently, Les Claypool has spent years pushing the bass beyond its supposed limits.

Strumming is another matter. Compared to a baritone, the strings are VERY far apart. You'd have to be chugging pretty hard to avoid hearing the pick contact every individual string. Fingerstyle fares better, reducing or eliminating this lag.

In my experience, you don't want to do a lot of barre chords. Between the longer neck, wider fretboard, and thicker strings, it'd soon enough cause you joint aches. If you want to play baritone as a primary instrument, then buy a baritone.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 18:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Aside from issues of technique, the chord voicings that work well on a standard guitar often won't translate well to the lower range of a bass. This is why two note chords are most common, and will often use intervals of over an octave. Two examples where a major tenth (octave + third) is prominent are "Walk on the Wild Side" by Lou Reed and "Summertime Rolls" by Jane's Addiction. When Les Claypool uses closer-voiced chords on bass (e.g. on Primus, "Groundhog's Day") they are usually in higher register on the instrument, maybe combined with a lower bass note separated by a wide interval. This is not unique to bass guitar, it's just the nature of harmonies between low notes. Even on baritone guitar, an open D chord (same shape as open G on standard guitar) sounds really muddy due to the major third at the bottom.--Theodore Kloba (talk) 15:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Use?

The beginning of this section reads: "The baritone guitar first appeared in classical music. The Danelectro Company was the first to introduce an electric baritone guitar in the late 1950s, ..."

Was the first use of a baritone guitar -- in Classical music -- really done with an electric guitar? Even in the 1950s this seems unlikely. I think some more information is needed, to explain the origin of the instrument, and perhaps a reference to the "classical" piece in which the instrument was first used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.249 (talk) 21:26, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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Lead Belly

Although it was apparently not called a "baritone" guitar, Lead Belly's Twelve-string guitar (as described in those two articles) appears to meet the functional description of a baritone guitar in terms of scale length, construction, and tuning. Since he died in 1949, he definitely predates the origins of the baritone guitar as described in this article. Is it worth mentioning here? --Theodore Kloba (talk) 15:24, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

No. It was not a baritone guitar. While the great majority of steel-string acoustic guitars have a scale length between 24 and 25.5 inches, and the Stella was 26.5, and had a big chunky body, there's no evidence it was meant to be played as anything but a standard-tuned acoustic guitar (though often down-tuned a full step to avoid collapsing the top).
Weeb Dingle (talk) 03:05, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Moving Tic-Tac Bass sections to Extended-range bass

Hello all, I’m requesting that we move the tic-tac bass discussion on this page (as well as some of the discussion on The Beach Boys) to the extended-range bass article as both country music and most BB songs with a baritone or 6-string bass use a 6-string bass rather than a baritone guitar. There are some exceptions in terms of The Beach Boys, but they are very few. Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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