Talk:Barbelith

Notability

I wonder what exactly makes tiny deserted internet forum worthy of an encyclopedic article? 178.94.62.33 (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

• There a paradox here in that one of the main things that made the place notable (besides the people who created it) could only be talked about via primary research (links to the board itself) or a few blog entries. The board was a test-case for something called "distributed moderation," an experiment in online community-building and self-regulation. It was also a kind of hothouse for other projects, like Jenny Everywhere. grant (talk) 22:40, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

• The article itself admits that it's about a dead board for a comic that finished in 2000, and it's closed to new members. It's of no interest to anybody except the participants. Wikipedia's article presumably exists because the founder is a relentless self-publicist. The Invisibles was a big fish in a small pond but fifteen years later this article deserves to be a very short sentence near the end of the main article on the comic. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 17:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

• • Hmm. The article says it's about a board for a comic, but even by 1999, the board wasn't really about the comic, and even comic creator Grant Morrison had some ... problems ... with the membership - something that I believe is referred to in Patrick Meaney's book on The Invisibles. Again, secondary sourcing is scant on this, but that membership included more than a few notable people, including Phil Hine, Nick Harkaway, David Barnett and Cameron Stewart, as well as Jenny Everywhere creator Steven Wintle and the aforementioned Patrick Meaney (...and historian Dr. Alexander Cummins... tech writer Daniel Nye Griffiths... Truthout publisher Joe Macaré... and so on), all of whom were trading ideas with each other. There are social media posts by all of them that reference Barbelith - but most seem to be either friends-only or else ephemeral. And of course, the time being what it was and the board culture being what it was, all were using pseudonyms that usually shifted around. (Stewart was "Broad Arrow Jack" for a while; Harkaway sometimes had "Nick" in his handle, and so on.) It seems like some of this should be verifiable in the Wikipedia sense, but I'm not exactly sure how. I suppose the real question is: Do notable members make a message board notable? - grant (talk) 15:35, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

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