Talk:Banu Ifran
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Problem 1
editI have a big problem when i edit in wike english
i want to write this but there is one party that not edit . I don't know why.
It' is in history i write it Kahina called his son Ifran. And few of them was christian.
Ibn Khaldun, say Ifran are berber , he don't say any thing to concerne their religion.
Some contemporary historian like Emile Félix Gautier in his french book "Siècles obscurs du Moghreb" , he say Zenata was very wild people. Some historian say the Queen Kahina was a Judith [1] [1][2] [2].--Great11 (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
References
Religion
editBefore Islam
Ifran are Like Zenata, animism was the principale spirtitual philosophy inspiration of this big tribe.
Ifri is a deity [[Berber]Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page). [3].
The translation or borrowing latin gives us Africa (Africa) which was a goddess Berber before the Roman conquest. Dea Africa means goddess Africa and represents a symbol to the Roman era.
And Ifri means local populations of Afers. Ifru symbolizes rites in caves to protect businessman. there is a cave not far from Constantine et Guechguech, it represent the rite. and Roman show the myth of protection in their money . Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page). [4][1] [5].
When Arab army attack Maghreb. the Ben Ifran were the first tribe to defend their Queen Kahina.[2] [6]
During Islam
Ben Ifren was opposed to Arab army ( sunnit and chite). They choise Kharidjit mouvement. Ibn Khaldun say: Zenata people say we are muslman but they still opposed to Arab army. [3] [4]. After 711, the berber were very serious to pratctice Islam religion. The prinipale leaders of Ifren were all time opposed to Arab army ( Abu Qurra, Abou Yazid, etc) [5]
please help me thanks --Great11 (talk) 17:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
References
- ^ Relations judéo-musulmanes au Marocperceptions et réalités De Michel Abitbol
- ^ Page 193 tome 3 d'Ibn Khaldoun Histoire des Berbères
- ^ Ibn Khaldun, Histoire des berberes, Traduction Slane, édition Berti
- ^ La Berbérie et L'Islam et la France par Eugène Guernier, tome 1, édition de l'union française, 1950
- ^ Ibn Khaldun, Histoire des berbère, traduit par Slane , édition Berti
Problem 2
editthis is a big problem
REFRENCE 12 ?????????
Archives des missions scientifiques et littéraires De France Commission des missions scientifiques et littéraires, FranceCite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).
in this page --Great11 (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I need help --Great11 (talk) 21:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I resolve the problem . I think , it's very good . I make lot of errors in this page sorry..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Great11 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
References
Ifran / Africa
editI have removed the unsourced sentence "The Roman name Africa means Land of the Afri, the indigenous inhabitants of North Africa" in the etymology section - it was implying an unsourced connection. Does anyone have a source which connects the Ifran with the Ifriqiya? The arabic إفريقية and يفرن have only two letters فر in common rather than the three needed for a Semitic root. Oncenawhile (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
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