Talk:Banksia marginata

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Picture of the day

Immature (left) and mature (right) flowers of the Silver Banksia (Banksia marginata), a species of tree or woody shrub native to southeastern Australia. It reaches up to 8 m (26 ft) tall and its inflorescences are a palish yellow, cylindrical up to about 10 cm (3.9 in) tall. Flowering occurs from February to June.Photo: Noodle snacks

Web of science search

Note - many false positives as they catch "Eucalyptus marginata" + Banksia (from SW WA) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Title: Cellulase Activity as a Mechanism for Suppression of Phytophthora Root Rot in Mulches Author(s): Richter BS, Ivors K, Shi W, et al. Source: PHYTOPATHOLOGY Volume: 101 Issue: 2 Pages: 223-230 Published: FEB 2011 Times Cited: 0

2. Title: Variation in susceptibility to Phytophthora cinnamomi infection within the genus Lambertia Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Cochrane JA Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 58 Issue: 7 Pages: 575-585 Published: 2010 Times Cited: 0

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3. Title: Phytophthora elongata sp nov., a novel pathogen from the Eucalyptus marginata forest of Western Australia Author(s): Rea AJ, Jung T, Burgess TI, et al. Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 39 Issue: 6 Pages: 477-491 Published: 2010 Times Cited: 0

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4. Title: Community-level changes in Banksia woodland following plant pathogen invasion in the Southwest Australian Floristic Region Author(s): Bishop CL, Wardell-Johnson GW, Williams MR Source: JOURNAL OF VEGETATION SCIENCE Volume: 21 Issue: 5 Pages: 888-898 Published: OCT 2010 Times Cited: 0

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5. Title: Temporal and spatial soil inoculum dynamics following Phytophthora cinnamomi invasion of Banksia woodland and Eucalyptus marginata forest biomes of south-western Australia Author(s): Shearer BL, Dillon MJ, Kinal J, et al. Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 39 Issue: 4 Pages: 293-311 Published: 2010 Times Cited: 0

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6. Title: Effect of time since burn on soil seedbanks in the jarrah forest of Western Australia Author(s): Koch JM, Ruschmann AM, Morald TK Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 57 Issue: 8 Pages: 647-660 Published: 2009 Times Cited: 0

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7. Title: Phytophthora multivora sp nov., a new species recovered from declining Eucalyptus, Banksia, Agonis and other plant species in Western Australia Author(s): Scott PM, Burgess TI, Barber PA, et al. Source: PERSOONIA Volume: 22 Pages: 1-13 Published: JUN 2009 Times Cited: 7

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8. Title: Ecosystem dynamics altered by pathogen-mediated changes following invasion of Banksia woodland and Eucalyptus marginata forest biomes of south-western Australia by Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Fairman RG, et al. Conference Information: 5th Australasian Soilborne Diseases Symposium, FEB, 2009 Thredbo, WALES Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 38 Issue: 4 Pages: 417-436 Published: 2009 Times Cited: 3

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9. Title: Re-evaluation of Phytophthora Species Isolated During 30 Years of Vegetation Health Surveys in Western Australia Using Molecular Techniques Author(s): Burgess TI, Webster JL, Ciampini JA, et al. Source: PLANT DISEASE Volume: 93 Issue: 3 Pages: 215-223 Published: MAR 2009 Times Cited: 8

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10. Title: Botryosphaeriaceae from tuart (Eucalyptus gomphocephala) woodland, including descriptions of four new species Author(s): Taylor K, Barber PA, Hardy GES, et al. Source: MYCOLOGICAL RESEARCH Volume: 113 Pages: 337-353 Part: Part 3 Published: MAR 2009 Times Cited: 5

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11. Title: Influence of site and rate of low-volume aerial phosphite spray on lesion development of Phytophthora cinnamomi and phosphite persistence in Lambertia inermis var. inermis and Banksia grandis Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 38 Issue: 3 Pages: 288-304 Published: 2009 Times Cited: 0

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12. Title: Phytophthora cinnamomi and Australia's biodiversity: impacts, predictions and progress towards control Author(s): Cahill DM, Rookes JE, Wilson BA, et al. Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 56 Issue: 4 Pages: 279-310 Published: 2008 Times Cited: 16

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13. Title: Assessment of threatened. ora susceptibility to Phytophthora cinnamomi by analysis of disease progress curves in shadehouse and natural environments Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Barrett S, et al. Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 6 Pages: 609-620 Published: 2007 Times Cited: 4

14. Title: Hemispherical digital photographs offer advantages over conventional methods for quantifying pathogen-mediated changes caused by infestation of Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Crane CE, Shearer BL Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 5 Pages: 466-474 Published: 2007 Times Cited: 3

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15. Title: Application of phosphite in a high-volume foliar spray delays and reduces the rate of mortality of four Banksia species infected with Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Shearer BL, Fairman RG Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 4 Pages: 358-368 Published: 2007 Times Cited: 6

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16. Title: Phytophthora cinnamomi invasion, a major threatening process to conservation of flora diversity in the South-west Botanical Province of Western Australia Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Barrett S, et al. Conference Information: Symposium on Advances in Plant Conservation Biology - Implications for Management and Restoration, OCT 25-27, 2005 Perth, AUSTRALIA Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 55 Issue: 3 Pages: 225-238 Published: 2007 Times Cited: 23

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17. Title: A stem injection of phosphite protects Banksia species and Eucalyptus marginata from Phytophthora cinnamomi for at least four years Author(s): Shearer BL, Fairman RG Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 1 Pages: 78-86 Published: 2007 Times Cited: 5

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18. Title: Influence of polymer seed coatings, soil raking, and time of sowing on seedling performance in post-mining restoration Author(s): Turner SR, Pearce B, Rokich DP, et al. Source: RESTORATION ECOLOGY Volume: 14 Issue: 2 Pages: 267-277 Published: JUN 2006 Times Cited: 4

19. Title: Selfed seed set and inbreeding depression in obligate seeding populations of Banksia marginata Author(s): Vaughton G, Ramsey M Source: PROCEEDINGS OF THE LINNEAN SOCIETY OF NEW SOUTH WALES Volume: 127 Pages: 19-25 Published: FEB 23 2006 Times Cited: 2

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

20. Title: Habitat segregation of Banksia shrubs at Gibraltar Range National Park Author(s): Virgona S, Vaughton G, Ramsey M Source: PROCEEDINGS OF THE LINNEAN SOCIETY OF NEW SOUTH WALES Volume: 127 Pages: 39-47 Published: FEB 23 2006 Times Cited: 2

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

21. Title: Effective concentration of phosphite in controlling Phytophthora cinnamomi following stem injection of Banksia species and Eucalyptus marginata Author(s): Shearer BL, Fairman RG, Grant MJ Source: FOREST PATHOLOGY Volume: 36 Issue: 2 Pages: 119-135 Published: APR 2006 Times Cited: 12

22. Title: Effects of the fire retardant Phos-Chek on vegetation in eastern Australian heathlands Author(s): Bell T, Tolhurst K, Wouters M Source: INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF WILDLAND FIRE Volume: 14 Issue: 2 Pages: 199-211 Published: 2005 Times Cited: 7

23. Title: Use of growth characteristics for predicting plant age of three obligate-seeder Proteaceae species Author(s): Jenkins ME, Morrison DA, Auld TD Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 53 Issue: 2 Pages: 101-108 Published: 2005 Times Cited: 2

 Not done this was vague in findings. There was a mich better one (Wills) added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

24. Title: Quantification of the susceptibility of the native flora of the South-West Botanical Province, Western Australia, to Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Cochrane A Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 52 Issue: 4 Pages: 435-443 Published: 2004 Times Cited: 30

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25. Title: Phosphite reduces disease extension of a Phytophthora cinnamomi front in Banksia woodland, even after fire Author(s): Shearer BL, Crane CE, Fairman RG Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 33 Issue: 2 Pages: 249-254 Published: 2004 Times Cited: 14

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26. Title: Using Banksia (Proteaceae) node counts to estimate time since fire Author(s): Wills TJ Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 51 Issue: 3 Pages: 239-242 Published: 2003 Times Cited: 5

 Done good one added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

27. Title: The efficacy of phosphite applied after inoculation on the colonisation of Banksia brownii stems by Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Barrett SR, Shearer BL, Hardy GES Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 32 Issue: 1 Pages: 1-7 Published: 2003 Times Cited: 13

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28. Title: Evaluation of resistance to Phytophthora cinnamomi in seed-grown trees and clonal lines of Eucalyptus marginata inoculated in lateral branches and roots Author(s): Huberli D, Tommerup IC, Colquhoun IJ, et al. Source: PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 51 Issue: 4 Pages: 435-442 Published: AUG 2002 Times Cited: 7

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29. Title: Vegetation of Phytophthora cinnamomi-infested and adjoining uninfested sites in the northern jarrah (Eucalyptus marginata) forest of Western Australia Author(s): McDougall KL, Hobbs RJ, Hardy GES Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 50 Issue: 3 Pages: 277-288 Published: 2002 Times Cited: 12

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30. Title: Temperature and inoculation method influence disease phenotypes and mortality of Eucalyptus marginata clonal lines inoculated with Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Huberli D, Tommerup IC, Calver MC, et al. Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 31 Issue: 2 Pages: 107-118 Published: 2002 Times Cited: 5

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31. Title: Distribution of Phytophthora cinnamomi in the northern jarrah (Eucalyptus marginata) forest of Western Australia in relation to dieback age and topography Author(s): McDougall KL, Hardy GES, Hobbs RJ Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 50 Issue: 1 Pages: 107-114 Published: 2002 Times Cited: 11

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32. Title: Ability of phosphite applied in a glasshouse trial to control Phytophthora cinnamomi in five plant species native to Western Australia Author(s): Wilkinson CJ, Holmes JM, Tynan KM, et al. Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 30 Issue: 4 Pages: 343-351 Published: 2001 Times Cited: 11

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33. Title: Phenotypic variation in a clonal lineage of two Phytophthora cinnamomi populations from Western Australia Author(s): Huberli D, Tommerup IC, Dobrowolski MP, et al. Source: MYCOLOGICAL RESEARCH Volume: 105 Pages: 1053-1064 Part: Part 9 Published: SEP 2001 Times Cited: 15

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34. Title: Effect of phosphite on in planta zoospore production of Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Wilkinson CJ, Holmes JM, Dell B, et al. Source: PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 50 Issue: 5 Pages: 587-593 Published: OCT 2001 Times Cited: 13

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35. Title: Relationships between sclerophylly, leaf biomechanical properties and leaf anatomy in some Australian heath and forest species Author(s): Read J, Edwards C, Sanson GD, et al. Source: PLANT BIOSYSTEMS Volume: 134 Issue: 3 Pages: 261-277 Published: 2000 Times Cited: 18

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:51, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

36. Title: Plant species affect acid phosphatase, ergosterol and microbial P in a Jarrah (Eucalyptus marginata Donn ex Sm.) forest in south-western Australia Author(s): Grierson PF, Adams MA Conference Information: International Conference on Enzymes in the Environment, JUL, 1999 GRANADA, SPAIN Source: SOIL BIOLOGY & BIOCHEMISTRY Volume: 32 Issue: 13 Pages: 1817-1827 Published: NOV 2000 Times Cited: 40

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37. Title: The use of potassium phosphonate to control Phytophthora cinnamomi in native vegetation at Anglesea, Victoria Author(s): Aberton MJ, Wilson BA, Cahill DM Source: AUSTRALASIAN PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 28 Issue: 3 Pages: 225-234 Published: 1999 Times Cited: 22

38. Title: Two hundred years of land use and vegetation change in a remnant coastal woodland in southern Australia Author(s): Lunt ID Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 46 Issue: 5-6 Pages: 629-647 Published: 1998 Times Cited: 26

 Not done mentions B marginata but does not discuss what happens to it at all. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

39. Title: Comparative seed germination ecology of Austrostipa compressa and Ehrharta calycina (Poaceae) in a Western Australian Banksia woodland Author(s): Smith MA, Bell DT, Loneragan WA Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF ECOLOGY Volume: 24 Issue: 1 Pages: 35-42 Published: FEB 1999 Times Cited: 19

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40. Title: Proteus in Australia. An overview of the current state of taxonomy of the Australian proteaceae Author(s): George AS Conference Information: Proteaceae Symposium, 1996 UNIV MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Source: AUSTRALIAN SYSTEMATIC BOTANY Volume: 11 Issue: 3-4 Pages: 257-266 Published: NOV 24 1998 Times Cited: 8

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41. Title: Post-fire seed dispersal and species re-establishment in Proteaceous heath Author(s): Hammill KA, Bradstock RA, Allaway WG Conference Information: Proteaceae Symposium, 1996 UNIV MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 46 Issue: 3-4 Pages: 407-419 Published: 1998 Times Cited: 16

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

42. Title: Biology of Mesostoa kerri (Insecta : Hymenoptera : Braconidae : Mesostoinae), an endemic Australian wasp that causes stem galls on Banksia marginata Author(s): Austin AD, Dangerfield PC Conference Information: Proteaceae Symposium, 1996 UNIV MELBOURNE, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 46 Issue: 3-4 Pages: 559-569 Published: 1998 Times Cited: 18

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

43. Title: Sources and consequences of seed mass variation in Banksia marginata (Proteaceae) Author(s): Vaughton G, Ramsey M Source: JOURNAL OF ECOLOGY Volume: 86 Issue: 4 Pages: 563-573 Published: AUG 1998 Times Cited: 67

44. Title: Evaluation of Banksia species for response to Phytophthora infection Author(s): Tynan KM, Scott ES, Sedgley M Source: PLANT PATHOLOGY Volume: 47 Issue: 4 Pages: 446-455 Published: AUG 1998 Times Cited: 6

45. Title: Compartmentalization of Phytophthora cinnamomi in stems of highly susceptible Banksia brownii treated with phosphonate Author(s): Smith BJ, Shearer BL, Sivasithamparam K Source: MYCOLOGICAL RESEARCH Volume: 101 Pages: 1101-1107 Part: Part 9 Published: SEP 1997 Times Cited: 11

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46. Title: Habitat segregation by serotinous shrubs in heaths: Post-fire emergence and seedling survival Author(s): Williams PR, Clarke PJ Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 45 Issue: 1 Pages: 31-39 Published: 1997 Times Cited: 8

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

47. Title: Susceptibility of plant species in Banksia woodlands on the Swan Coastal Plain, Western Australia, to infection by Phytophthora cinnamomi Author(s): Shearer BL, Dillon M Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 44 Issue: 4 Pages: 433-445 Published: 1996 Times Cited: 16

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48. Title: An examination of the drought and frost tolerance of Banksia marginata (Proteaceae) as an explanation of its current widespread occurrence in Tasmania Author(s): Blake J, Hill RS Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 44 Issue: 3 Pages: 265-281 Published: 1996 Times Cited: 2

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

49. Title: INVASION OF BASSENDEAN DUNE BANKSIA WOODLAND BY PHYTOPHTHORA-CINNAMOMI Author(s): HILL TCJ, TIPPETT JT, SHEARER BL Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 42 Issue: 6 Pages: 725-738 Published: 1994 Times Cited: 13

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50. Title: INTERACTION OF FIRE, TEMPERATURE AND LIGHT IN THE GERMINATION RESPONSE OF 16 SPECIES FROM THE EUCALYPTUS-MARGINATA FOREST OF SOUTH-WESTERN WESTERN-AUSTRALIA Author(s): BELL DT Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 42 Issue: 5 Pages: 501-509 Published: 1994 Times Cited: 39

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51. Title: REGENERATION AND SURVIVAL OF INDIGENOUS DRY SCLEROPHYLL SPECIES IN THE BRISBANE RANGES, VICTORIA, AFTER A PHYTOPHTHORA-CINNAMOMI EPIDEMIC Author(s): WESTE G, ASHTON DH Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 42 Issue: 2 Pages: 239-253 Published: 1994 Times Cited: 21

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

52. Title: GROWTH AND REPRODUCTIVE-PERFORMANCE OF A SEEDER AND A RESPROUTER SPECIES OF BOSSIAEA AS A FUNCTION OF PLANT-AGE AFTER FIRE Author(s): HANSEN A, PATE JS, HANSEN AP Source: ANNALS OF BOTANY Volume: 67 Issue: 6 Pages: 497-509 Published: JUN 1991 Times Cited: 39

53. Title: TEMPERATURE-GROWTH RELATIONSHIPS OF PHYTOPHTHORA-CINNAMOMI IN THE SECONDARY PHLOEM OF ROOTS OF BANKSIA-GRANDIS AND EUCALYPTUS-MARGINATA Author(s): SHEARER BL, SHEA SR, DEEGAN PM Source: PHYTOPATHOLOGY Volume: 77 Issue: 5 Pages: 661-665 Published: MAY 1987 Times Cited: 27

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54. Title: COMPARATIVE BEHAVIOR OF PHYTOPHTHORA SPECIES IN THE SECONDARY PHLOEM OF STEMS AND EXCISED ROOTS OF BANKSIA-GRANDIS AND EUCALYPTUS-MARGINATA Author(s): SHEARER BL, MICHAELSEN BJ, WARREN HJ Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 35 Issue: 1 Pages: 103-110 Published: 1987 Times Cited: 21

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55. Title: DISTRIBUTION OF BIOMASS, NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS AND OTHER NUTRIENTS IN BANKSIA-MARGINATA AND B-ORNATA SHOOTS OF DIFFERENT AGES AFTER FIRE Author(s): GROVES RH, HOCKING PJ, MCMAHON A Source: AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF BOTANY Volume: 34 Issue: 6 Pages: 709-725 Published: 1986 Times Cited: 15

 Done added. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Banksia marginata/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: J Milburn (talk) 23:05, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

At first glance, it's an impressive article. Another you hope to send to FAC? I'll just take a read through, and add comments as they come to me. J Milburn (talk) 23:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

• "as Silver Banksia" Not essential, but perhaps the Silver Banksia?

yeah, how'd I miss that..? definite article added Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• The opening sentence is very long.

yeah, split Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "as a small shrub to 20 cm (8 in) high" Up to? It seems strange to give an upper limit when you are about to say that it grows so much bigger.

yeah, good point "to" removed Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "The flower spikes are to grey" Rephrase?

gah! muffed cut/paste/copyedit or something. now fixed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "further collections the species were described as several separate species" Rephrase?

gah! muffed cut/paste/copyedit or something. now fixed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "dwarf forms" Link?

to Dwarfing is best maybe..? Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "compact shrub to 20 cm (8 in) high" As above; I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this.

fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "Gibraltar Range" Link?

tweaked link to first instance Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "lignification" Link?

wiki link would be to lignin which is a bit wordy, I think the wikt link to wikt:lignification is a little more precise..? Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "though recorded as late" though they are?

tricky - tried "although flowering occurs in late autumn.." Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "measure 5–10 cm (2.0–3.9 in) tall and 4–6 cm (1.6–2.4 in),[5]" Specify what the second measurement is?

+ wide (oops) Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "As with most banksias, anthesis is acropetal; it proceeds up the flower spike from the base to the tip" I'm sorry, I don't follow this.

I figured this might be tricky. It is the direction the flowers open in up the spike. See the image where you can see that the opening of the tiny buds to flowers proceeds from the base to the top of the spike. I'll think on rewording. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "separated by a woody dark brown separator" Redundancy

-- > "between which lies a woody dark brown separator" (separator is official name)

• "having crossed out Van Diemen's Land 1804" What does this mean?

I am reflecting the source. My interpretation is that Brown thought it was from Van Diemen's Land (i.e. Tassie) and then realised that collection came from Victoria instead. I am pondering whether I can put that in but I have not seen that interpretation in George's writing (I might ring him up and ask him actually :))

• Why don't you mention the common name Silver Banksia in the taxonomy section? The current common names paragraph looks a little out of place. Also, there is inconsistency with capitalisation of common names.
• Inconsistency with the italicisation of "subsp."

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "the Banksia Atlas project" Book name- italics?

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "still cohering" What does that mean? (image caption)

Tricky - I changed it to "with winged seeds still nestled against it" - they aren't attached as such. If you pull them out of the cone they sort of stick as the surface is finely ridged, but fall away if you shake them a bit. I have burnt many a spike over a gas stove and grown seedlings - in fact one is in bud in my autumn garden at present. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "It is widespread in medium rainfall eucalypt forests across Victoria. It is a common understory shrub, sometimes small tree, in heathy and shrubby forests in part of its range." Unreferenced one line paragraph.

done --Melburnian (talk) 09:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

• "of habitat" s?

done Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• You give common names of the pollinators, but not other plants with which it grows?

got 'em Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• "it grows as a low shrub which suckers (shoots growing from lateral roots) after fire" You seem to use "suckers" as a verb but define it as a noun?

it is used a verb or noun. A plant which suckers is one which can send up shoots from roots. These shoots are also called suckers. Hence the link to "basal shoot". Best thing to do is to buff the target article methinks... Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• So, is it in use as timber today? Was it put to use after the exhibition?

not really. It is too small generally. I will see what I can find. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Now addressed.Melburnian (talk) 01:27, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• Inconsistency with quote marks used to refer to cultivars.

all double quoted now Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

These need to be in single quotes per Cultivar#Cultivar names. Melburnian (talk) 02:12, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

fine by me Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:41, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

• Perhaps two columns for the refs? (I'm yet to look through them).

refs in two columns now. Bring on more queries :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:08, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Hope this helps. There's more I need to look through yet, but, so far, this is looking great. J Milburn (talk) 00:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok, looking through again; the sourcing and illustrations are both top-notch, so no concerns there. This article is of a higher quality than many GAs, but as this is approaching FA level, I thought you may appreciate a few further thoughts.

• There is an inconsistency between the capitalisation of common names- capitalised (lead, para1 of "Ecology", etc) or not capitalised (para2 of "Ecology", "Distribution and habitat", etc)

The general plan is uppercase for birds and lowercase for everything else. We've sometimes overridden that for consistency at FAC, and I am in three minds at present (leave as is, all uppercase, all lowercase...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• There's also an inconsistency (check captions, for instance) as to whether the species is referred to by its common name or its specific name.

good catch - made specific name Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:08, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

• The ecology section still comes across as a little choppy- short paras and such
• I wonder whether the tree/shrub images should be moved up- I appreciate that you guys are really into banksias, but it's not something I'd ever come across before reading articles by your projects, so precisely what you're talking about is not clear at a glance. (Also, there are some nice templates/tricks to combine two images- may be worth considering)

not a bad idea. I have lots of photos of this species from NSW and Victoria (as does Melburnian), and I am sure JJ Harrison has more photos of it up his sleeve in Tasmania. I might browse my collection offline. Might take a bit of time and thought...agree about a habit shot up the article a bit. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Any particular types of photos that you are after Cas? A shot with a bird with this species would be good for ecology (that's one I don't have myself). I'll upload some more to add to the pool at commons:category:Banksia marginata.Melburnian (talk) 03:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I am still keen t see what range of habit shots we can get. I have just uploaded 3 pics of a monster remnant tree that was shown to Kevin Collins and me near Beeac in September 2004 (I only had a lousy point-and-shoot camera at the time and it was dusk. A shame as the tree has since died. It is the biggest marginata I have seen, at ~ 15m and 90 cm trunk. I am digging round for some others on my old hard drive but seem to be loads of the damn flowers only. Yes wildlife shots would be cool! 12:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

That's a beauty (I saw it on the newsletter) - thanks for the upload, and sad to hear about its demise. Yes, I have loads of flower photos too, but I'll see what other habit photos I can find.Melburnian (talk) 13:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Twas a nice autumn day in Sydney and I drove to the piece of bushland with the closest examples of B. marginata to my house. Got an okay habit shot and two shots with some pollinators...but they were only ants and a European honeybee...and I forgot to move a bit of leaf out of the way of one nice shot of a flower spike - see File:Banksia marginata antsandbee.JPG and File:Banksia marginata antsandbee2.JPG.... :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Gee, that makes the ones in this part of the world look pretty scruffy in comparison. Good job with the bee and ants too. Melburnian (talk) 14:10, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

• "Immature (left), Mature (right)" capitalisation? (lead caption)

overhauled it and made lower case (not a sentence) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

It's generally great. J Milburn (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'm confident the remaining issues are being worked on, but that the article as stands is worthy of GA status. Hope to see this at FAC at some point in the future! I'm promoting now. J Milburn (talk) 11:52, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Worth a gallery or bloc of images?

One of the key things about this species is the diversity of tree/shrub shapes - I was wondering whether a gallery or 3 x 2 bloc of images was worthwhile...thoughts? Juxtaposing the diversity I think is worthwhile.Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Interesting thought normally galleries are disliked at GAC/FAC, what about a daughter article to present the different forms Table of Banksia marginata forms, perhaps with a basic tab;e in the description section? Gnangarra 13:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I think a block would be OK based on the precedent of Banksia prionotes, to me the diversity of form is the most remarkable aspect of this species. I don't think we could justify a separate article on the forms as they are have no "official" status. Melburnian (talk) 13:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

My line of thinking is like Melburnian in that a daughter article with this scope would be essentially a gallery anyway. Might be good to rearrange commons like that though. I have arranged the six most diverse habit shots we have, though none are from Tassie which is a shame. I'll ask JJ Harrison. Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

(update) I've tried six images to illustrate the diversity, but am happy if folks think of better ones. The Wilsons Prom and second Beeac ones were fifth and sixth choices, so we can see what else is around and they'd be the first to replace. I did also add an image of minimarg into the commons page. My own mini margs are too small...thoughts? Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:46, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Banksia marginata tinyflowers pipeline rd.jpg is another one I took, a tiny shrub with tiny inflorescences about a cm high on pipeline Rd near Forrest in Otways, but the contrast is not good of the plant against the litter :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I've added your Mini Marg in the cultivar section. I think the Beeac silhouette is valuable in showing one extreme of habit. The Wilsons Prom image is the most expendable given that we already have a small shrub form at Anglesea.Melburnian (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I've just uploaded a series of new photos to commons of the tree form and pollinators from an area to the west of Melbourne.--Melburnian (talk) 07:57, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Wow cool! The wasp is good as is the New Holland Honeyeater. I'll get to rejigging. NB: most of ours in Sydney are straggly shrubs, you just find some nice bushes where one is clearly growing in a good habitat. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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