Talk:Banknotes of the Australian dollar

WP:OR - thicknesses and weights of polymer banknotes

Sorry for the WP:OR, but I emailed the RBA for the thicknesses of the polymer banknotes, and they sent back a table of thicknesses and weights, which I have incorporated into the article. I have been unable to find a WP:RS reference on the web. --Surturz (talk) 07:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Japanese occupation currency notes

I removed the following section, as it does not deal with the article's subject (i.e. decimal currency bank notes). I've posted the deleted secion here in case anyone wants to use it elsewhere. It is interesting, after all!

During World War II, Japan had prepared to invade many countries, including Australia. Because of this, the Japanese government at the time designed its own currency for use in Australia. It should be noted that this is not the only currency outside of their own that they decided to use. For these examples see Japanese military yen.

However, due to the fact that Japan never succeeded in their goal of invasion, the currency was never used in Australia. It was, however, used in the captured Australian territories of Papua New Guinea.

The notes may be viewed at the Reserve Bank of Australia website.(The Commonwealth Bank and the note issue: 1920–1960) Wikipeterproject (talk) 21:56, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I modified it and moved to the Australian pound. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 04:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Wikipeterproject (talk) 20:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Serial numbers

There are no instructions in this article on how to read the serial numbers of the Australian dollar... that would be useful for numismatics. Stidmatt (talk) 02:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Images

The images clearly set out what they portray, "give a visual description to the topic being discussed and further enhance the article as a whole," etc etc. - Aaron Brenneman (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The images clearly are in excessive numbers (WP:NFCC#3a) and at disallowed locations. See WP:NFTABLE: you are not allowed to include non-free images in a table. Thus, all non-free images used in tables in this article need to be deleted per Wikipedia policy. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:39, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

The test for WP:NFCC#3a is to ask whether each image contributes something of value to the understanding of the subject over and above what is conveyed by all of the other images together. In this case, one of the most important parts of the understanding of the subject is the understanding of what each of the individual notes looks or looked like. So yes, in this case the images do pass NFCC #3a.

Regarding WP:NFTABLE, the reason NFTABLE exists is that usually for our use to be transformative requires our image to be closely associated with text other than the image, that sight of the image is needed to understand. But here the basis of the use being transformative use is different, because originally the notes were created for a very specific purpose, namely to be banknotes. Our use is legitimate, and different, namely to perform the valuable public service of showing what those banknotes looked like, something which in no way harms or takes away from the purpose for which the notes were created. Note that, for just this kind of reason, WP:NFTABLE is not an absolute but specifically says that the use "is usually unacceptable, but should be considered on a case-by-case basis."

Finally, the most fundamental question is Who Benefits if these images are removed? They're not going to be a fair-use problem, either for us or our commercial reusers. They can't be replaced by free images. They are of use to our readers -- probably exactly what our readers want to know, if they are coming to this article. And they're clearly encyclopedic, of clear value to people who want to know more about Australia, or more about notes and coins of the world. So exactly what purpose is agitating for their removal supposed to serve? Jheald (talk) 15:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Could someone please explain to me:

• Why the usage of 30 non-free bank note images here is acceptable, but the use of album covers on U2 discography isn't acceptable?
• Why WP:NFTABLE doesn't apply to this article, or if it does where there was consensus achieved that this article qualified as an exception?
• Why non-free images are kept on this article until there's consensus to remove them?
• How "Depiction of Currency" (and similar variants) as a purpose of use for many of the images on this article is acceptable?

--Hammersoft (talk) 17:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Someone just did. Thank you to Jheald for saying it so well. - Aaron Brenneman (talk) 07:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

• As shown at WT:NFC, Jheald's stance is effectively identical to fair use law, with the only exception being if free equivalents exist. So anyway, back to the questions. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:31, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
• Nevermind. I'm shifting my position. Please feel free to contribute to Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content#Proposed_modification_to_WP:NFC. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
  • No, thank you for a very mature response, of a style that is all-to-rare in the 'pedia as a whole. Big kudos. - Aaron Brenneman (talk) 11:54, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
    • You may be interested in Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 June 20#File:Australian $1 note paper back.jpg which I have just started. If the request at WP:FFD is successful, I am planning to take more images there. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:46, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Why have you started it? i.e. What are you wanting to achieve, and why? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:11, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

New Australian banknotes

Has anyone heard about the new Australian banknotes? Check this page: Bank note designs cash-in on 'youthful' image. 101.112.140.75 (talk) 17:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The RBA says "it is anticipated that it will be several years before the first of the upgraded banknotes will be issued". And your Courier-Mail link above confirms that.

But this uncited edit suggests the current series will come to an end in 2012. Or has already come to an end. So, if that's accurate, what do we have in the meantime – only coins and credit? I'm trying to avoid an edit war here. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 00:25, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

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Third series

Can we show these? I know it has an issue with fair use, but it seems like we should be able to show them since we're not making money off them or anything like that. The page just looks so silly without them. There must be some way we can "lawyer our way" into being allowed to show them. Some loophole, perhaps? Nate Hooper (talk) 11:17, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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