Talk:Bailiwick of Guernsey

Government and capital in the infobox

The government and capital sections of the infobox have been commented out, however Alderney and Sark both send representatives to the States of Guernsey, to participate in legislation on laws which cover the entire Bailiwick (i.e. "transferred services", include policing, customs and excise, airport operations, health, education, social services, childcare and adoption). So there is still a government of the entire Bailiwick, it just happens to be the same as that for Guernsey. This is similar to the Parliament of the UK, in respect to the United Kingdom and England. Rob984 (talk) 11:38, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Population Data

The population data used in the infobox does not include Alderney or Sark according to the source, which are both part of the Bailiwick, and have a combined population of around 2500. I was unable to find a recent source which combined all three (Guernsey, Alderny, Sark) into one number. apairofpears (talk) 04:28, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Have now fixed this with a new source. apairofpears (talk) 15:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

United Kingdom as sovereign state for Guernsey

Guernsey isn't part of the United Kingdom, but is responsible for Guernsey. I think that this should be made more clear in crown dependency articles. MicroSupporter (talk) 20:50, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Flag and Arms

"Recognition" says the bailiwick has neither flag nor arms, yet there are images of both in the sidebar. Are they fake? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 伟思礼 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Government

As explained in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Normandy the title „Duke of Normandy“ is not officially used. Hence, it shouldn’t be used in this article and be corrected Adlerauge24 (talk) 20:25, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree, the head of state of Guernsey is the King of the UK and leader_title1 should be [[Monarchy of the United Kingdom|King]]

As stated by the States of Guernsey's website:

The King is the Head of State (as the latter day successor to the Duke of Normandy) and the Lieutenant-Governor is His Majesty's personal representative.

There are two cited sources for the title of the leader being Duke of Normandy

1. The Queen: Elizabeth II and the Monarchy, p. 314, at Google Books

The Google Books copyright declaration states:

Ebook Edition © MAY 2012 ISBN: 9780007490448
Version 2019-02-01

This is the same one that I am reading, I was not able to find the relevant passage on page 314, but on page 289-291 is says:

Although there was supposed to be no publicity, peasants in the villages knew they were coming. Some doffed their caps and shouted ‘Vive la Duchesse!’ (‘Well I am Duke of Normandy,’ said the Queen).⁵²

Note 52 corresponds to the citation

Lord Carnarvon: interview.

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I assume this referring to Henry Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon.

2. The Channel Islands, p. 11, at Google Books

Which states:

They have been part of the Duchy of Normandy since the 10th century and Queen Elizabeth II is often referred to by her traditional and conventional title of Duke of Normandy. However, pursuant to the Treaty of Paris (1259) she is not the Duke in a constitutional capacity and instead governs in her right as Queen (the ”Crown in right of Jersey”,¹⁶ and the ”Crown in right of the république of the Bailiwick of Guernsey”¹⁷). This notwithstanding, it is a matter of local pride for monarchists to treat the situation otherwise: the Loyal Toast at formal dinners is to 'The Queen, our Duke', rather than ’Her Majesty, the Queen’ as in the UK.¹⁸

I was not able to find the sources section for this book.

It seems that the Monarch of the UK is colloquially referred to as the Duke of Normandy in Guernsey, but officially governs as King/Queen. The lost of the duchy and the colloquially title should be probably be mentioned after the 1st paragraph in the history section. Vasusrir429 (talk) 18:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Flag

Regarding the matter of the flag, is there a source that states the Bailiwick doesn't have a flag? Because other sources like Britannica and Flaginstitute state that the flag of the island is used as flag of the dependency as a whole. Another point is that at the Commonwealth Games athletes from Guernsey, Sark and Alderney all participate under the flag of Guernsey. Sacesss (talk) 08:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)