Talk:BTR (vehicle)

re: made for transporting Bronies.

The link to Bronies is a joke. It transported light infantry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.148.20.100 (talk) 02:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Brony-transporter?

Some IP user is making a bad joke about MLP:FIM fans, after User:Dendirrek moved Bronetransporter (Бронетранспортер) to Bronyetransportyor for transliteration issues. But is this transliteration anything against WP:RUS transliteration? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 10:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

• I have no idea about Russian transliterations, but I left a note about this discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Russia and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine, so hopefully someone who knows what they are doing will come along and give some advice. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 11:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
• The proper transliteration according to WP:RUS would be bronetransportyor. I have no idea though what is written in English language sources.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:44, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
• I concur with Yaroslav above. "Bronetransportyor" is correct per WP:RUS, although "bronetransporter" may also be acceptable (due to issues with the letter ё/yo). "Bronyetransportyor" seems to be more of an attempt at transcription, not transliteration (but may still be OK if that happens to be what most of the English-language sources use).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 4, 2012; 13:41 (UTC)

OK. I get it, but we need more opinion. By the way, can anyone in Russian Wikipedia split ru:Бронетранспортёр article into Armoured personnel carrier in general and those from Soviet army? (like this article) JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 13:08, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I've looked at some of the sources out there, and it seems to me that "bronetransportyor" (whatever way one chooses to spell it) is not the best title for this article. From what I see, the term is usually only given as an explanation of what BTR stands for, with "BTR" being by far the most prevalent term choice. I thus believe that the best location for this article would under "BTR" followed by some sort of parenthetical disambiguator, e.g. BTR (armored personnel carrier). To me, transliterating the full form would not be unlike moving the KGB article to komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti (and then arguing about how exactly to romanize it). It's technically correct, but not the term most often used in English. Just my 2¢.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 6, 2012; 13:39 (UTC)

• "Bronetransportyor" is the form used in folowing sources:

1. Rodric Braithwaite (6 September 2011). Afgantsy: The Russians in Afghanistan, 1979-1989. Oxford University Press. pp. 197–. ISBN 978-0-19-983265-1. Retrieved 16 June 2012.
2. Muhoozi Kainerugaba (2010). Battles of the Ugandan Resistance: A Tradtion of Maneuver. African Books Collective. pp. 8–. ISBN 978-9970-25-032-5. Retrieved 16 June 2012.

However, majority of the GBooks refer it as "Bronetransporter". Please ref:

1. Harold A. Skaarup (12 August 2011). Ironsides: Canadian Armoured Fighting Vehicle Museums and Monuments. iUniverse. pp. 192–. ISBN 978-1-4620-3464-2. Retrieved 16 June 2012.
2. Lester W. Grau (1 March 1996). The Bear Went Over the Mountain: Soviet Combat Tactics in Afghanistan. DIANE Publishing. pp. 40–. ISBN 978-0-7881-4665-7. Retrieved 16 June 2012.
3. Robert Jackson (1 March 2007). Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles. Parragon Incorporated. pp. 203–. ISBN 978-1-4054-8664-4. Retrieved 16 June 2012. etc.

Whatever be the transliteration, I think Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) 's view is the correct one. IP-user's action could only been seen as vandalism. --AshLey ^Msg 12:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

What about BTR (vehicle)? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 14:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I'd be fine with that one. Certainly better than what I suggested :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 17, 2012; 16:57 (UTC)

Moved. Any ideas? JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 15:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

no Ё

We could replace ё with e in order to really call it "Russian AND Ukrainian" spelling. Happy edits, Ukrained2012 (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Done JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 04:33, 13 June 2012 (UTC)