Talk:BGP hijacking
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Merge Proposal
editThere was previously a request for a merger of this article with the prefix hijacking section of the Border Gateway Protocol article. I believe that the section in the BGP article should be shortened and the meat of the information be in this article. IP/Prefix Hijacking can become a large article. There is already a lot of research in this area that can be integrated into the article and more research and information is likely to become published on this topic. --TreyGeek (talk) 00:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC) BGP is an entirely separate protocol from TCP. TCP hijacking is irrelevant to BGP hijacking. While the article needs revising merging them doesn't make sense. The vulnerabilities in the protocols are unrelated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.160.11.162 (talk) 15:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Previous user is correct: BGP security flaws require their own separate distinction, in part due to their prevalence and huge impact of security at a much higher level then IP Hijacking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.142.195.129 (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I noticed a problem with this section of the Border Gateway Protocol article. The text has been plagiarized from [here] apparently --131.107.0.77 (talk) 18:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
I believe that bgp is so specialist that the hijacking issues should be left seperate and not merged into a larger corpus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.16.218.141 (talk) 11:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
it should stay within the current topic, as-path hijacking is specific to BGP, sessoin hijacking and man-in-the-middle attacks are generic, but exploits possible once the BGP session has been hijacked are very specific. if anything, rearrange the page so its at the bottom, but for the sake of completeness, leave it in, link to it from the ip_hijacking generic page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.140.120 (talk) 12:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
BGP is in a league of it's own. It has no real comparable other. As for protocol hacking... for that matter, you could include just about every single protocol ever published (IETF, IEEE, ANSI, FIPS, ISO, etc.) and end up with one humongous article, but BGP flaws which are specific to BGP should be left under the BGP thread. But I feel a simple mention of BGP hijacking should be made in the IP hijacking section with specifics to BGP linked back to this article. wbenton (talk) 08:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
IP Hijacking is not inherant or solely focused on BGP. One can hijack an IP from within an OSPF network (within a single AS); I've seen this done by accident and know it's been done deliberately. There is no need to merge the articles, given that BGP is only one example of where IP hijacking can occur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.147.83.98 (talk) 17:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
BGP Security
editSee http://crypto.stanford.edu/dns/ for more information. Related, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack
the last three links of the Public Incidents section are broken 79.131.231.147 (talk) 14:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
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Change of name to BGP hijacking
editI've moved this article to BGP hijacking, which is the most correct, and most commonly used, term among those who know about such things. -- The Anome (talk) 17:17, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Terminology: route leaks
editI suggest the addition of some clarification on terminology re route leaks (there currently isn’t any explanation) perhaps at the end of Mechanism. How about something like:
- When a router promulgates flawed BGP routing information, whether that action is intentional or accidental, it is defined by the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in RFC 7908 as a "route leak". Such leaks are described as "the propagation of routing announcement(s) beyond their intended scope. That is, an announcement from an Autonomous System (AS) of a learned BGP route to another AS is in violation of the intended policies of the receiver, the sender, and/or one of the ASes along the preceding AS path." Such leaks are possible because of a long-standing "…systemic vulnerability of the Border Gateway Protocol routing system…"[1]
BGP is only peripheral to my background so I’m seeking thoughts/improvements. Zatsugaku (talk) 21:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Problem Definition and Classification of BGP Route Leaks". June 2016. Retrieved 27 May 2021.
Proposed redesigns that forestall hijacking
editAs I explore this topic a further, I see there are some additional protocol initiatives beyond RPKI that aim to provide a more comprehensive fix to iBGP and eBGP. I think there is an opportunity to create a section, perhaps “Proposed redesigns that forestall hijacking.” The idea is to very briefly touch on evolutionary and clean slate ideas that address BGPs long-standing security/flow issues, putting it in the general context of the diverse institutional and private technical initiatives that collectively could fit under Future Internet. That is a lightly edited page and there are a lot of older/historic/archive.org references there to sort through. It could use some updating. Beyond RPKI, the SCION (Internet architecture) page seems to be the most apparent/credible research/academic driven project with at least some adoption (references solicited). There are others that exist mainly as academic proposals/papers and some that are proprietary (so I have to avoid it being a magnet for a product list/soapbox). Also, I notice there is a similar gap on the BGP main page re a no subsection on redesign proposals, so I guess there is a need to finesse two similar paragraphs. Eventually I think the topic of BDG redesign is important enough to justify its own page. Any thoughts? Zatsugaku (talk) 18:03, 4 September 2021 (UTC)