Talk:Aztec Press

Proposal to delete?

This page may be the victim of an editor-war, between me and Spawnopedia, who has called for the deletion of the article. I am trying to assume good faith, but it seems to me that at best, good faith would call for merging this with Pima Community College instead of simply calling for deletion.

The Aztec Press entry is about the only student newspaper on a 6-campus, 75,000-student campus, with a circulation of 9,000 issues. Pima Community College is one of the largest colleges in the U.S., ranking apparently in the top 10. (I've seen different figures.) The Aztec Press has been published since the 1970s.

The page has been reviewed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Arizona and given a "stub" rating. Stubs are short, but are usually not candidates for deletion.

Wikipedia maintains a List of student newspapers which includes links to other college newspapers. The stated reason for deletion is Not notable- just a general student paper and there are thousands and that does not seem particularly compelling in this case. If there is a valid reason for deleting and/or merging this article, I would like to see it explained and discussed. --Kynn 22:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I am okay with the merging. There is nothing notable that would signify the article as a stand alone. Spawnopedia 22:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

The article should make the case for why it is worth having an article on the topic. This is best done by citing independent sources to explain why the wider society has taken notice, or what was/is unusual about the particular topic.

Here are some examples of articles with claims to notability. The Bowdoin Orient isn't a great article (sourcing is weak, etc...), but it does say thy that particular is worthy of note - basically, for being very old (if you poke around the category, the truth of its claim to be oldest is debatable, at best). The MIT Tech is believed to be the first newspaper (student or not) published on the web. The Dartmouth Review got national press notice for some of the controversies involving it. Of these, I'd say that The Dartmouth Review is in best shape; it both makes a case and cites some independent press coverage.

If you think merging is a better solution, you are encouraged to do so. Most college student groups, once an article is noticed, get merged to the college's article, or an article on student life at the college if that has been split out already. GRBerry 17:24, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you try to do the merging? I'm not gonna try because this Kynn guy is an obsessive . Spawnopedia 18:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and done the merger. --Kynn 20:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

References to the Aztec Press

• Arizona Newspaper Association, history of the Aztec Press
• American Society of Newspaper Editors, article by a former Aztec Press editor
• 1999 JACC awards for general excellence
• 2002 JACC awards, Aztec Press staff win 11 awards

Etc, etc.

I don't see any reason to delete for lack of notability. I'd like more explanation other than "this is not notable" to explain why the article should be deleted or merged. --Kynn 22:56, 22 January 2007 (UTC)