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editNo mention of the fact that the US Congress banned funds to Ukraine over Azov (https://khanna.house.gov/media/in-the-news/congress-bans-arms-ukraine-militia-linked-neo-nazis) and the ADL's assessement in 2019 (https://www.adl.org/resources/report/hate-beyond-borders-internationalization-white-supremacy). This article is a post-2022 whitewashing propaganda piece. 167.142.48.84 (talk)
- "In 2018, the U.S. House of Representatives again passed a provision blocking any training of Azov members by American forces, citing its neo-Nazi connection" Slatersteven (talk) 10:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- IN fact we have a whole section on the allegations. Slatersteven (talk) 10:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Probably this should be under allegations of antisemitism. The article puts the allegations all over the place to make the pre-2022 allegations less definitive then they are. 167.142.48.84 (talk) 10:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is. Slatersteven (talk) 10:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, the statement "In 2018, the U.S. House of Representatives again passed a provision blocking any training of Azov members by American forces, citing its neo-Nazi connections." is under "International arms and training controversies" 167.142.48.84 (talk) 20:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is. Slatersteven (talk) 10:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Probably this should be under allegations of antisemitism. The article puts the allegations all over the place to make the pre-2022 allegations less definitive then they are. 167.142.48.84 (talk) 10:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
NeoNazi designation
editshouldn't we include a note that they are/were a neo nazi group? [1]https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-azov-battalion-the-neo-nazis-of-ukraine/article65239935.ece[2]https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/ BarakHussan (talk) 21:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Try reading through the talk page archives if you really think this is the first time someone asks this, or better yet, read the article itself which contains 137 instances of the word "Nazi". TylerBurden (talk) 21:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 July 2024
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There's a random piece of orphan text in the middle of the list of references. Please either move it to wherever it may belong or remove it:
According to Biletsky, the emblem that many consider to be the Nazi "wolf trap", "Idea of the Nation" – is the intersection of the letters of the Latin alphabet "and" and "N"</ref>
. 76.14.122.5 (talk) 03:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can't find that text anywhere in the article. Could you be more precise? Sjö (talk) 06:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's in the references section. You need to view in edit mode, not while reading the article 76.14.122.5 (talk) 17:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Done I looked through the page history and couldn't figure out where that snippet was supposed to go, so deleted it. PianoDan (talk) 20:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! 76.14.122.5 (talk) 22:29, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Offtopic
editGreetings @Mhorg, what is the point in your edit [3] , which adds sources such as
Olszański, Tadeusz A. (4 July 2011). "Svoboda Party – The New Phenomenon on the Ukrainian Right-Wing Scene". Centre for Eastern Studies. OSW Commentary (56): 6. Archived from the original on 13 March 2014. Retrieved 27 September 2013.
, some website ("naso"), and so on? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- It is the primary source, the website of Ukrainian National Union (political party), where you can see their logo with the Wolfsangel searching for the label "Збори Харківського обласного відділення Українського Національного Союзу". Of course it is better to find a secondary source. Mhorg (talk) 16:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- So, it's unrelated to the article. Can you please filter out and remove content and sources from your edit which are unrelated to this article. Thanks. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 16:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for removing this one. Why the article still references the work mentioned in the first message? ManyAreasExpert (talk) 16:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- So, it's unrelated to the article. Can you please filter out and remove content and sources from your edit which are unrelated to this article. Thanks. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 16:33, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to remove sentences discussing symbolics of other groups, like "It was used by the Patriot of Ukraine organization" and so on, as not related to Azov. ManyAreasExpert (talk) 09:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Wrong Meta link
editThe References link number 115, about Meta's Facebook and Instagram, seems to be linking to information about a Leopard Tank and nothing about Facebook. Looking at the history, soon after the news article was written, someone added the information in with a wrong link. I guess later, the archive link used the wrong link as well. Can someone please correct both links? The dates seem to be correct, 19 January 2023. The correct link seems to be this article. https://kyivindependent.com/meta-azov-regiment-no-longer-meets-criteria-for-dangerous-organization-on-facebook-instagram/ - cyalknight 174.21.101.22 (talk) 05:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)