Talk:Azerbaijan International
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Questioning deletion
editUser:Rmky87, I don't quite get why you deleted this version. And what exactly do you mean by "unwikified text"? It is perfectly in line with Wikipedia requirements. Zondi 08:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Ali and Nino
editGizgalasi, can you please provide evidence as to why these three particular articles should have so much prominence in this article, compared to the dozens of previous issues published in the last nine years? Please note that the amount of time your team spent is not relevant here: what I mean by evidence is some evidence from outside of the magazine, something that points to this being a particularly noteworthy set of issues--points of critical acclaim, scholarly citations, etc. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- For starters, there is a major movie of "Ali and Nino" in the makings announced on Jan 2012 - scripted by an Oscar-winning British writer.
There are very heated debates currently going on in Baku about the authorship issue.
- Simply, deep research has not been carried out by anyone else both inside the country as well as outside - to understand all points of view. We didn't limit our research to one person or another, we tried to go deeply into all four people who are known to have contributed to the book - Ehrenfels, Robakidze, Essad Bey and Chamanzaminli.
- We traveled to Ehrenfels castle in Vienna, to Tbilisi to meet with historians and experts there including Injia who has made credible claims about Robakidze. We spent weeks in National Archives in Azerbaijan. We made contacts in Tbilisi, Ukraine, and Berlin so we could gain access to Archival records there. We spent months in the Research Library of UCLA.
We translated Chamanzaminli's materials into English - 200 page Description of his archives kept at the Institute of Manuscripts, his novels "Between Two Fires" and "Students," his diaries, his autobiographical sketches, his letters, his son's memoirs, his political essays. We interviewed the best experts in Azerbaijan about Chamanzaminli.
- We tracked down the personal correspondence of the Publisher - Lucy Tal - of "Ali and Nino" in the States and the correspondence with Ehrenfels which is kept in a German emigrant archives in a US State University. We communicated with one of the most knowledgeable scholars in Vienna in regard to the demise of Jewish Publishing world when the Anshchlus took place in 1938.
- And further since this was a period when people did all sorts of things to survive - thousands of emigrants flocking into European cities - like Berlin, Paris, London, there was - as could be expected - much abuse of those who did not have the language skills or the contacts to get published in the land that they suddenly found themselves in.
- The issues are much deeper than the authorship of the novel Ali and Nino and no doubt, many PhDs could be written about what really happened during those years between the wars in Europe in the publishing world.So, yes, the research is very deep. That's why it took us six years. And we think it is only fair that Wiki Readers can have access to know the issues - if they would like. Gizgalasi
- First, you need to indent every new paragraph on talk pages, which I've corrected for you. Second, the subject matter itself, the research you did, etc., none of that answers my question. We need evidence that, if someone else were going to talk about the magazine in general, they would spend 1/3 of the time talking about these three issues. I'm beginning to doubt that you have such evidence. The movie is irrelevant--that has nothing to do with this journal. The War is irrelevant --by that argument, every time any journal did an article on something related to the War, that should have extra promninence in the article about the journal--which is false. Your last point is the point where you are most wrong: our job for this article is to explain the journal, what it is about, what general subjects it covers, how prominent it is in the field, how widely read it is, and anything that it has done that has caught the attention of independent reliable sources. In other words, the only reason that we would possibly spend so much time on these three issues is if you can show that independent, reliable sources have done so as well--in a sense, that these issues are what the magazine is famous for. If you can't show that, this section needs to come out, or at least be reduced to a sentence or two. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
- The movie is not irrelevant. It will be the first time that a small country like Azerbaijan has one of its novels transformed to screen on a very broad international level. The novel itself has been printed in 34 languages and therefore is of international interest - this is more languages than any other Azerbaijani novel has ever been translated into.
- The conditions that existed during World War II with the influx of thousands and thousands of refugees to capital cities is not irrelevant. Poverty made many intellectuals beg for a piece of bread and often their only skill was intellectual and there were plenty of people who took advantage of such conditions back then. This was the situation that existed back then. And this is the primary reason that explains why one single author cannot be credited with the novel.
- Yes, in the broad scheme of things, this research related to the authorship of "Ali and Nino" will be what the magazine is remembered for. Gizgalasi (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)GizgalasiGizgalasi (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
All of the special/unique editions
editActually, it's not just the A&N section--we need some justification for all of the "special" sections. Specifically, we need commentary from independent reliable sources about which editions have been particularly noteworthy. If no RS have talked about specific issues, then the whole section should be removed. Again, we need to document what the rest of the world (as shown through RS) think about this magazine, not what you (the magazine publishers) think is special. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the guidanceGizgalasi (talk) 05:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)gizgalasiGizgalasi (talk) 05:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC).
Here are comments from highly reputable people in their own fields.
Well, here is what Paul Goble, one of the foremost political analysts of the former Soviet Union says. He has been watching the developments in that region for the past 40 years.
- A Literary Excavation into Ali and Nino
- "Many people are likely to read this issue of “Azerbaijan International” only for the information it casts on this dispute [of authorship], but that would be a mistake... This issue is filled with information, not only on the authors involved, but rather on the entire range of life in Baku nearly a century ago and on the nature of Azerbaijaniness and the Azerbaijani experience. Consequently, just like “Ali and Nino,” this issue is required reading for all who care not only for Azerbaijan but about the human condition in our time...." Paul Goble writing a review for the Azerbaijan Diplomatic Academy publication: "Azerbaijan in the World."
- Here are comments from Robert Georges, Professor Emeritus at UCLA in English and Folklore Department who knows the magazine since first edition. He is one of the acknowledged founders of academic folklore studies in the United States:
- “What fascinating, scholarly detective work! It's a model of comprehensiveness, with a clearly and convincingly developed and defended thesis and an impressive quantity, quality, and diversity of evidence to support it. I was in awe as the beautifully organized work evolved. It deserves widespread publicity and praise and should be widely known, read, and cited." Dr. Robert Georges, University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
- Another academic who has carefully studied Reiss' The Orientalist and is involved in preparing US diplomats at Foreign Service Institute for the Caucasus region:
- "What a marvelous document, and with such fascinating illustrations, time-lines, and all those little nooks-and-crannies sidebars! I am sure that over the course of time, this - and the forthcoming - edition [Yusif Vazir Chamanzaminli, Azerbaijan International 16:1] will become the standard reference to the novel Ali & Nino and its extraordinary history." Alex Van Oss, Contract Chair, Caucasus Advanced Area Studies, Foreign Service Institute, U.S. Department of State, Arlington, VA, USA
- Gizgalasi (talk) 05:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)gizgalasiGizgalasi (talk) 05:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC).
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Deleting cover photo of magazine
editWhat is your rationale for deleting the cover of the magazine!!!!????? There are many magazines which include a cover of the magazine on the page that describes them. What is the reason? It seems very unreasonable to me and not honest. Like you just want to hit on us. Explain. You simply reverted. I don't see any valid reason. And the magazine has offices in Los Angeles and Baku so why can't the flags of both nationalities be shown. You reversion does not reflect the reality. Gizgalasi (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)GizgalasiGizgalasi (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- You need to stop editing this article, as you have a definite POV about it and are attempting to own it, which is against Wikipedia policy. I have restored many of the changes I made to the infobox, but have kept the magazine cover, moving it into the body of the article.
Continuing to edit this article is likely to end up badly for you, considering your serious conflict of interest regarding the magazine which prevents you from being objective about other editor contributions to it. Please read the COI policy and follow its suggestions: do not edit the article yourself, but make suggestions here on the article's talk page for other editors to consider. Failure to do so in the face of the complaints of other editors is not looked upon well by the Wikipedia community. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- This magazine is produced and goes by volume numbers - The photo shown is Vol. 14:1 (Spring 2006). You show it to be #141. That is not correct. Please show it to be Vol. 14:1 (Spring 2006).
You have been so sensitive to show all points of view related to Ali and Nino. So why did you delete the statement about AI's research. What is the basis for deletion? The conclusions of Azerbaijan International differ substantially from those of Tom Reiss, author of The Orientalist, who concluded that Lev Nussimbaum was the sole author of the novel Ali and Nino. Why can't that stand as you had left it before? Gizgalasi (talk) 04:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)GizgalasiGizgalasi (talk) 04:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- I will correct 141 to 14:1. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:39, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
- This magazine is produced and goes by volume numbers - The photo shown is Vol. 14:1 (Spring 2006). You show it to be #141. That is not correct. Please show it to be Vol. 14:1 (Spring 2006).
Deleting links to short stories
editI do not understand why Beyond my Ken has deleted the links to the short stories that are published in the book by Mir Jalal. How is this promo of the Web site where the stories are made available free. We made those links in keeping with the spirit of Adam Swartz who gave his life so that intellectual material could be free to as broad a readership as possible. Why is that promotion if the stories are free? And if we are the publisher of that book ourselves. There is no monetary gain. Please revert to enable the links for Mir Jalal's short stories. Perhaps people will not be able to gain easy access in Azerbaijan or other countries of the world to this book and we think it only fair to show the links were they can freely read it. Gizgalasi (talk) 22:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)gizgalasi
- Wikipedia is not a link farm, and it's not here to promote your magazine by driving circulation to it. Despite your discussion with Chris Troutman, you still don't seem to understand the essence of what Wikipedia is about. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:38, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
- AZERI.org is not the Website to our magazine - AZER.com is. AZERI.org is a Website totally dedicated to Azerbaijani literature in its original language and in translation - primarily in English. It is one of the largest sites of Azerbaijan Literature in English translation is all free to the readers.Either that or the four Websites that have been created by the magazine staff should be permitted on the MAgazine page - AZgallery.org (art work) and HAJIBEYOV.com (famous musician). Again, we ask to revert to links on AZERI.org that were provided in the original article or at least to one reference to the site under the topic of Mir Jalal. http://azeri.org/Azeri/az_latin/latin_lit/az_literature/short_stories/pashayev_mir_jalal/pashayev_index.html
This gives the reader access to Mir Jalal's stories about conditions during the Soviet Era - stories which are available, not just in English as the book is - but in Azeri as well. And it enables the reader to have access without buying a book.
- I would like to request that at least one major link be made to the Mir Jalal short stories. At least readers could easily find this source. I understand what you are saying about links to the 12 stories. But is it possible to make a link to one - Link above? Gizgalasi (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Gizgalasi
One of the great values of Wikipedia is that there are numerous links to related topics and that it is not like a 1980s hard copy of Encyclopedia Britannica which is a closed document. The links on Wikipedia are extremely valuable. Again, in the spirit of Adam Swartz - as mentioned earlier, we request revert so that the stories can be made available to the general reader interested in the topic. Gizgalasi (talk) 00:14, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Gizgalasi
- All that doesn't matter, you're not going to be allowed to post direct links to a dozen short stories published by your magazine. Now, you've been told repeatedly that you have a conflict of interest in regard to this subject, and your past editing history shows that you are not able to control your instinct to promote it through Wikipedia. I strongly urge you not to edit this article directly anymore, and to restrict yourself to making suggestions on this talk page, otherwise I will have to seek the opinion of the community as to whether you should be topic banned. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:35, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- I personally find your reference to Adam Swartz to be extremely offensive. He was hounded relentlessly by the government on behalf of copyright trolls for acts that involved very little wrongdoing, to the point that it ruined his life. You're trying to add links to drive traffic to your articles/website (even if it's indirectly through another website). You're the corporate power here; don't you dare try to make it seem like you're fighting for some sort of justice. Your comparison actually sickens me. Those links violate WP:EL (in particular, note WP:ELOFFICIAL), and so they do not and will not go in the article. And forget about going to the community first--if you engage in promotional activities related to AI anywhere on Wikipedia again, I'll block you and then bring it to the community myself and risk the de-sysop. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
- The reference to Aaron Swartz was not meant to be offensive. I have great respect for him and what he was doing. What I meant that we publishers should try our best always to do what we can for readers who may not be able to pay for materials. It is imperative that we enable people to get educated without pulling out their wallets. No way was I trying to compare my small gesture with what he has done for the Internet community. I just meant in his spirit - we should all strive to make material available. I'm sorry that offense was made. It was not intended. Gizgalasi (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Gizgalasi
- I personally find your reference to Adam Swartz to be extremely offensive. He was hounded relentlessly by the government on behalf of copyright trolls for acts that involved very little wrongdoing, to the point that it ruined his life. You're trying to add links to drive traffic to your articles/website (even if it's indirectly through another website). You're the corporate power here; don't you dare try to make it seem like you're fighting for some sort of justice. Your comparison actually sickens me. Those links violate WP:EL (in particular, note WP:ELOFFICIAL), and so they do not and will not go in the article. And forget about going to the community first--if you engage in promotional activities related to AI anywhere on Wikipedia again, I'll block you and then bring it to the community myself and risk the de-sysop. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
Magazine categories
editThanks for linking the magazine Azerbaijan International to other larger categories - Primarily, Azerbaijan International is an English-language magazine about Azerbaijan. There are a few exceptions when an occasional article is made available in Azerbaijani. And very exceptionally the last issue AI 15:2-4 was published in two volumes - English and Azerbaijani The upcoming 16:1-2 which will also be published in two separate editions . So I don't know if identifying it as an Azerbaijani language publication is really accurate. You decide. Gizgalasi (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Gizgalasi
Credibility of Azerbaijan International magazine
editAs requested: In regard to the credibility of this magazine - here are awards from state level - US GOVT and AZERBAIJAN GOVT to vouch for the influence of the magazine. Also some other recognitions.
1. Uniqueness of Azerbaijan International President of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev in 2007 organized an event to recognize the 5th Jubilee of Azerbaijan International. His full speech is here. It was a two-hour televised event. Cabinet Ministers as well as Members of Parliament were in attendance. See photos http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/54_folder/54_articles/54_aijubilee.html
PRESIDENT HEYDAR ALIYEV - November 20, 1997. "In this respect, special words must be said about Azerbaijan International. Categorically, we must acknowledge that among the publications which are being produced in different countries, no other publication has been able to describe the situation of Azerbaijan so accurately, so completely, so optimistically and so attractively.
"It is interesting that neither our state organizations nor our social organizations have created this magazine. The creators of this magazine are people who love Azerbaijan. They are friends of Azerbaijan who genuinely care about our country. This publication is the brainchild of two people-Betty Blair and Pirouz Khanlou. One of them is American, the other is Azeri. Through their personal initiative and selfless labor, they have created this magazine which has attained an incredibly high standard. I greatly value their initiative and the work they have done these past five years. I respect their attitude towards Azerbaijan, their friendship and the enormous efforts that they have made for our country.
"This magazine proves that when people are committed from the bottom of their hearts, and when they really care about what they're doing, they can achieve their goals. There are so many publications and social organizations in Azerbaijan. We have so many newspapers, magazines and books. But which of them can be compared to Azerbaijan International? Who can bring their publication and show that theirs is equal to Azerbaijan International? No one can. If there are any, please come and show us...."
2. International Herald Tribune, June 5, 2000 "Undoubtedly, Azerbaijan's best Web site. Cultural issues dominate this lavishly illustrated site." Describing AZER.com which archives Azerbaijan International magazine's articles from 1993.
3. Named "Best Magazine of the Year in Azerbaijan" (May 2007) by Azerbaijani New Writers and Artists. Award bestowed upon Azerbaijan International magazine for "promotion of Azerbaijani history, literature, culture and realities throughout the world
4. US EMBASSY AWARDS AZERBAIJAN INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINE with their highest honor. US EMBASSY in BAKU - highest annual award for development of relations between the USA and Azerbaijan was bestowed on Azerbaijan International in 2009 (July 3). People making special contribution in development of bilateral relations between the USA and Azerbaijan are awarded with this premium. The US Embassy Award was founded in 2008. Azerbaijani former ambassador to the USA Hafiz Pashayev received the first award in 2008. Azerbaijan International Magazine received the second annual award - 2009. Certificate of Award reads: “for bringing Azerbaijani Culture to America via Azerbaijan International and working tireless to build lasting bridges between the United States and Azerbaijan Through Cultural, Humanitarian and Educational Exchanges."
<http://biweekly.ada.edu.az/news/20090703050651252.html>http://biweekly.ada.edu.az/news/20090703050651252.html Baku,Azerbaijan-On July 1, Betty Blair and Pirouz Khanlou, founders of Azerbaijan International magazine, were awarded the Hafiz Pashayev Award by Ambassador Anne Derse and Deputy Foreign Minister Hafiz Pashayev at the U.S. Ambassador’s residence. At the reception held in honor of the recipients, Ambassador Derse highlighted the role and importance of Azerbaijan International magazine in increasing understanding of Azerbaijani culture in the U.S. and the rest of the world in the 16 years since its founding in 1993. Azerbaijan International magazine established four websites, each dedicated to Azerbaijan’s culture, music and art. <http://www.azer.com/>www.azer.com <http://www.azeri.org/>www.azeri.org <http://www.hajibeyov.com/>www.hajibeyov.com <http://www.azgallery.org/>www.azgallery.org --- 5. More than 300 links from Wikipedia link to Azerbaijan International magazine. Gizgalasi (talk) 22:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Should this article be kept or deleted?
editDoes this article pass or fail WP:GNG? If it passes, then could someone please point out for us two sources which talk about the magazine and meet our guidelines? (Please see the unofficial summary of our guidelines.) Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 08:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that we measure academic journals based upon sources explicitly talking about them; rather, the question would be (I think), are the articles in them cited by and/or discussed by other academics in other journals. And for AI, at least some of their articles are re-cited/discussed (see Ali and Nino: A Love Story for examples). This is basically an extension of WP:PROF, which recognizes that an academic can be notable for their work, even if no one has specifically talked about the person. I don't actually know, in practice, how we judge; I'll see if I can dig something up. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
- Dear Qwyrxian: dear all:
- Why call it an academic journal?
- According to Ulrichsweb:
- It's unrefereed.
- It's a "magazine", not a "journal".
- Total circulation is 7,000. They don't say what proportion is paid and what proportion is unpaid.
- It's indexed in only three (obscure?) databases: Ebsco's "Left Index" and "Middle Eastern & Central Asian Studies", plus ProQuest's "Ethnic NewsWatch".
- This seems like an obscure serial. On the other hand, maybe the article is useful. An analogy: It's definitely useful to have an article showing how untrustworthy the prestigious-sounding Townsend Letter for Doctors & Patients really is. Maybe, so too, it's also useful to have an article showing that Azerbaijan International, too, is obscure. (And unrefereed.) Any thoughts?
- —Unforgettableid (talk) 05:08, 30 August 2013 (UTC); edited 08:13, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I didn't realize it's unrefereed. The second Ebsco database points to it being academic, but the other two point away from that. I've enquired of one of our best editors on notability, who may know of precedent for determining journal notability. If there is, maybe we can use that to weigh whether or not this journal/magazine meets it. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
- I found a relevant essay: Wikipedia:Notability (media)#Newspapers, magazines and journals. Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 17:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I didn't realize it's unrefereed. The second Ebsco database points to it being academic, but the other two point away from that. I've enquired of one of our best editors on notability, who may know of precedent for determining journal notability. If there is, maybe we can use that to weigh whether or not this journal/magazine meets it. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:32, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Current version of article
editThe article has been trimmed, for apparent good reason. However, what's left is merely an advertisement of Betty Blair's particular take on the Ali and Nino authorship, and what seems to me a veiled effort to sell those issues of the magazine. In fact, if I may say so, this seems to be the sole reason this Wikipedia article was created, by the magazine's editor/publisher: to stir up business for the only issues of the magazine likely to be sensationalistic, which articles themselves were a thinly veiled effort to capitalize on, and rebut, Tom Reiss's effective and logical research findings on the A&N authorship in his nonfiction book, The Orientalist.
What do I recommend to counter this advertising? That the image of the A&N issue be deleted. That the A&N material be curtailed and minimized and removed of all POV (which the COI editor who wrote this Wiki article has placed in it). In fact, I'm not sure we need anything about A&N in this article at all -- it's all just arguments to further the editor/publisher's COI agenda. Softlavender (talk) 06:28, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Research about Ali and Nino Absolutely Should Stand
editThe comment above by Soft Lavendar is not based on fact that the Wikipedia article about Azerbaijan International magazine was created to promote a specific issue of the magazine. The Wikipedia page about Azerbaijan International was created long before the Ali and Nino research was ever begun. And all issues of the magazine - 15 years - not just the one about authorship may be purchased on their website. Before one calls the research about Ali and Nino "sensationalist", one should read it. Why does it have nearly 1,000 footnotes if it is sensationalist? The research is much deeper and more comprehensive than Reiss's in The Orientalist. Clearly, those making comments about the contents of the magazine do NOT know it. Nor do they really know in depth how much fiction is embroidered into Reiss's book.
Tom Reiss carried out very little research about the Chamanzamanli link in Azerbaijan. He quickly dismissed this author without studying him. He only mentions him twice in his entire 400 plus pages of his book. Reiss's research in Azerbaijan was extremely weak. And he himself admits that he returned to Baku to interview the sons of Chamanzaminli AFTER he had published the New Yorker article in 1999 . In other words, he checked out other points of authorship very superficially once he had a potential contract in hand for a book about Essad Bey. So why would he want to contradict anything that he had already printed in the New Yorker? He was invited to go to the Institute of Manuscripts in Baku which archives a huge collection of Chamanzaminli's materials. And Reiss did not show up. Azerbaijani scholars were waiting for him.
Furthermore, the research that was carried out by Azerbaijan International magazine shows a much more complex picture of the authorship of Ali and Nino and about the context of times in Europe when thousands of refugees were streaming into the capital cities of Europe. It is clear that the authorship question is much more complex than the single authorship of Lev Nussimbaum / Essad Bey. It has been proven in Georgia that major chapters relating to Tbilisi and Iran have been plagiarized from Georgian writer Grigol Robakidze. Also Austrian baronness Elfriede Ehrenfels played a major role in registering the novel with German authorities once the Anshchluss in Austria took place. The research from Azerbaijan International acknowledges these complexities but it traces the major ideas of the novel to Yusif Vazir Chamanzaminli (1887-1943).
Even the question of 16 books coming out under the name of Essad Bey in 8 years (1929 to 1936) should sound alarm bells. Clearly Essad Bey was working more as a broker than a creator of many of those books. His agent even warned him - "Not to be so prolific, and to take a year off between books". That was after the agent passed three books to him - US President Harding, Turkish Enver Pasha and Russian Peter the Great. Essad Bey added and embellished texts - the research shows that he was particularly adept at fantasizing about legends and folkloric material (who could contradict him in Europe about remote Eurasian or Russian territories?). Study any of the texts of the 16 books under Essad Bey and one will see those books are very different from each other. Even a review published in the New York Times points out discrepancies in the book about Stalin that was published under Essad Bey's name. Publishers were using his name to boost sales - "The Business of Literature".
Absolutely the magazine image of the issue featuring Ali and Nino authorship should stand. An article about a magazine should include covers of the magazine. And the material about AN should stand. This is the point of view of the magazine and it should be expressed there in the article that describes the magazine. Reiss and his cohorts have already made enormous changes to the Ali and Nino article. Reiss himself has added more than 3,500 words himself. Gizgalazi
- Every single major contributor to the article (mainly the COI editor above and an IP address), has been an SPA editor focused exclusively or nearly exclusively on this magazine and/or also on Ali & Nino [1]. None of the Ali & Nino material is reliable or relevant to this Wikipedia article, and it has clearly been added as a WP:SOAPBOX. It needs to be removed, beyond a short single-sentence mention, and the Wikipedia article should be solely about the magazine and sourced from independent reliable sources. Softlavender (talk) 08:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Azerbaijan International is a magazine
editAzerbaijan International is a magazine, not a journal. There is no need for any comment in the article about "no peer review". Funding for the publication from its inception in 1993 has been via advertisements - major international companies working in Azerbaijan - which are clearly shown in each issue. It is not funded by the Azerbaijani government. Gizgalasi (talk) 01:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
Also your comment that Conoco Phillips was an advertiser in the early days and, therefore the magazine is "pro-regime" is absolutely absurd. First of all, Conoco Phillips was a minor sponsor over the years. And it does not follow that an international company that sponsors a magazine makes the magazine "pro-regime". Clearly, you have not read the content of the magazine. And are just trying to discredit the publication. Your comments are extremely biased and show that you do not know the content of the publication which is available on the Internet. Gizgalasi (talk) 04:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Gizgalasi
- Gizgalasi, you are free to make requests for edits (like the ones above) on this Talk page, but you are NOT free to edit the article yourself, because of your extreme conflict of interest. You have been told this before, but you continue to edit the article, and other articles in which you have a conflict of interest. In order to avoid a block or a ban on your ability to post at all on Wikiedia, even on Talk pages, you need to avoid editing these articles. If you make an edit request on a Talk page, other editors will examine your request and decide whether to make it or not based on Wikipedia policies and verifiable reliable sources. Softlavender (talk) 07:29, 28 August 2014 (UTC)