Talk:Austria-Hungary/Archive 8

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Pharaph in topic Post-RM commentary
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Post-RM commentary

Austria and Hungary were not a country. There were no common citizenship neither passport. In international law, they were separate countries, that's why they had different peace treaties.

Read this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Compromise_of_1867#Terms

With the exception of the territory of Bosnian Condominium, Austria and Hungary did not form a common sovereign territory in international law. (Ie. Kingdom of Hungary and Empire of Austria were different countries) Thus regarding to territorial changes during peace treaties, the Empire of Austria and Kingdom of Hungary had to act independently as independent countries: A delegate from the Austrian parliament had right to sign peace treaties related to territorial changes of the Austrian Empire, and respectively, a delegate from the Hungarian parliament had right to sign peace treaties regarding to territorial changes of the Kingdom of Hungary.[48] See: Treaty of Saint-Germain and Treaty of Trianon

Austria–Hungary, as a common entity, had no jurisdiction and legislative power, which was shaped by the fact that there was no common parliament. The common diplomatic and military affairs were managed by delegations from the Imperial Council and the Hungarian parliament. The delegations had 60 members from the Imperial Council, and 60 members from the Hungarian parliament, and the ratios of various political fractions exactly and proportionally mirrored their own political parties of their parliaments. The members of the delegations from the two parliaments had no right to give speeches, to debate, or introduce new ideas during the meetings; thus they were nothing more than the extended arms of their own parliaments. The only function of the delegates was to cast their votes according to the previously made decisions of their political factions in the Austrian and the Hungarian parliaments. All common decisions had to be ratified by the Austrian parliament to be valid on Austrian territory, and by the Hungarian parliament to be valid on the territory of Kingdom of Hungary.[47] The Austrian and Hungarian delegations hold their joint meeting in Vienna in every odd year, and in Pest in every even year.--Pharaph (talk) 10:08, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

They had separate peace treaties at the end of WWI because of the Dissolution of Austria-Hungary. Earlier treaties were made by the whole empire as a unit - see Category:Treaties_of_Austria-Hungary for a list. Furius (talk) 20:06, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
But this is WP:NOTAFORUM; what action do you want to be taken? Furius (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Clearly, this is a continuation of the issues discussed in the dash-versus-hyphen question. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:12, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
You have reading comprehension problems.
The cited text exactly wrote only about territorial changes of E. Austria and/or K. of Hungary.--The only true Austro-Hungarian territory in Europe was the Bosnian condominium.Pharaph (talk) 06:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
I think that last remark is not a continuation of the issues discussed in the dash-versus-hyphen question. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:05, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Austria and Hungary were a true common entity only during the era of military dictatorship (1849-1867). For further info and references see: Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867 article.--Pharaph (talk) 20:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)