Talk:Auburn High School (Alabama)/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Nasty Housecat (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

The only issue raised in the GAR was the broken links. These have now been fixed.

There are four other issues that should be addressed, two minor, two maybe not:

• The list of Extracurricular organizations is just bare list and not really what WP:LIST has in mind. The WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI guidelines generally consider such details non-encyclopedic and discourage them. I would suggest the list be removed or revised in some more relevant way.
• Should the gallery of photos be moved to Commons and linked from here?
• I have to ask about the copyright status of Auburn high aerial.jpg. It claims it was released to PD by James C. Buston, III, but is there a link to documentation of such release? Or does OTRS have a release to that effect?
• I also question to copyright status of Auburn high campus map.png. It claims Lissoy created the map, but it appears to be a school publication. Could this be clarified?

I will place the review on hold pending resolution of the copyright issues, at least. I am following this page and will respond promptly to any questions. --Nasty Housecat (talk) 16:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to review this article, Nasty Housecat. I'll address your questions point-by-point, just as you've outlined them above. I've contributed absolutely nothing to this article, so please excuse me if I am not able to give much content specific information.

• Reading through WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI, don't see anything deeming a section listing the clubs and extracurricular activities of the school non-encyclopedic. In fact, I found the exact opposite. As I read through WP:WPSCH/AG, I found such a section specifically recommended under WP:WPSCH/AG#S (see Sections of the article/Extracurricular activities). These sections are also included in other high school articles that have reached GA status (see Garden City High School (Kansas)#Clubs, Johnson Senior High School (St. Paul, Minnesota)#Clubs and organizations, and Benjamin Franklin High School (New Orleans, Louisiana)#Clubs and organizations for three instances). I'd prefer not to remove the information.
• I do not have any strong objection to removing the gallery, but I do believe it adds to the article since it is included directly beneath a section that details the history of the school. Visual representations of the history seem appropriate, but again, I have no serious objection to their removal if that is a sticking point.
• I have emailed Lissoy (talk · contribs) requesting confirmation of the copyright status for Image:Auburn high aerial.jpg. In the interim, I've uploaded File:Auburn High School satellite.jpg as a substitute. The image was downloaded from the USGS map service and is unquestionably in the public domain
• As for File:Auburn high campus map.png, I see no reason to doubt Lissoy's copyright claim on the image. Lissoy has uploaded several maps related to the Auburn/Opelika, Alabama area. Such a map could be created without too much trouble using a PD satellite image and a program such as Inkscape.

Thanks, --auburnpilot talk 19:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

• It says you should mention them, not list them. WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI encourages that lists be kept to a minimum. Granted, the guideline is not binding. But WP:EMBED is explicitly part of the GA criteria. I think this list is borderline, at best, because it says nothing notable about the programs themselves. It is just a list of links. Some older GA school articles have them (all of the ones you found are from 2008 or so) but probably shouldn't. Since this article was promoted before with the list where it is, I can be persuaded to let it be. But it should really be revised to meet the standard. (Besides, is the mere fact that they have a Pep Club really encyclopedic?)
• The images are all great and they do add to the article. They just lack context where they are. All we have are dates. Can you say something about each one of them that ties them more closely to the article? The alternative is to create a gallery on Commons and link to it, which is not a bad way to do it. Again, I don't know if this has to be a dealbreaker. But something should probably be done to either incorporate them more or move them.
• The replacement image is perfectly fine.
• If there is a way to explain that more clearly in the description, it should be fine. Right now it is unclear what it means that Lissoy "created" it. --Nasty Housecat (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

• The list of activities I prefer to leave unaltered as I am not knowledgeable enough on the subject matter to add any content about their significance. I do agree that it would be better if they were included in prose rather than a list, however. While I don't think this should preclude the article from reestablishing GA status, I will do what I can in the future to update the section.
• I've removed the gallery of images from the article. While the images are no doubt in the public domain due to age, the image description pages do not include proper source information so I've opted to simply eliminate them rather than move them to Commons. I've emailed Lissoy to update the information rather than delete them.
• The image description page for File:Auburn high campus map.png has been updated to clarify the origin of the map.

I hope this addresses your concerns. Thanks, --auburnpilot talk 21:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes it does and I am happy to pass the article as a GA. --Nasty Housecat (talk) 01:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review the article! --auburnpilot talk 20:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)