Talk:Atul Gawande/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 23:02, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my review comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:02, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Following negative feedback on a recent review of mine, I'm inviting another reviewer to take a look. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:09, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio and plagiarism check

• A search using Earwig's Copyvio Detector showed a few matches above 10%, but going through these, most of the similarity is due to titles, positions, institution names etc. No concerns.

Infobox

• What is the source for date of birth?

Lead

•  Pending I'll look at this last.

Early years and education

• WP:AGF re the Athens News source, as it's not available in my country.
• Is there a more independent source for "(PPE) from Balliol College, Oxford"? (He is Executive Director of Ariadne Labs, the source used here.)
• "He completed his general surgical residency training, again at Harvard, in 2003." - source needed.

Political career

• "He returned to medical school in 1993 and earned a medical degree in 1995" - seems to overlap with part of the Early years and education section.

Journalism

• First paragraph needs a source or sources.
• Reword "caught the eye of The New Yorker"
• "compared the health care of" - what was compared? This phrase isn't very specific.
• "two towns in Texas" - McAllen is mentioned in the article, what was the other?
• The FT reference needs to be expanded. (e.g. using a cite news or cite web template.)
• The paragraph starting "In addition to his popular writing..." needs sources.

Books

• First paragraph ("Gawande published his first book...") should have an independent supporting source, not Gawande's own website. A brief description of what the book was about could be added.
• "reached the New York Times hardcover nonfiction bestseller list" - consider adding the position reached.
• "It challenges many traditionally held notions about the role of medicine" - can examples be provided?
• I think the external video links should go down in the External Links section (see comment below about renaming from "Interviews and Talks")

Later career

• "He stepped down from the position in May 2020" - probably worth mentioning his stated reason for this.

Awards and honors

• The time.com reference needs some more details.
• "he was named by Foreign Policy magazine to its list of top global thinkers" needs a reword (e.g. "he was included by Foreign Policy magazine on its list of top global thinkers")
• Is there an independent source instead of Gawande's on site for the awards in the fourth paragraph?

References

•  Pending

Interviews and talks

• I think this section should be called External Links, as per MOS:LAYOUTEL.

Second opinion by Larry Hockett

I came to this review because of a request for a second opinion by the original reviewer, User:BennyOnTheLoose. I found that I agreed with the substance of the original GA review. I was going to add a few items to the review, but I was concerned that the original feedback (from mid-June) did not appear to have been addressed in any way. The nominator left a message at Talk:Atul Gawande saying that he was busy with school but that he would address the feedback after his summer school final exams.

About 30 days have passed since the nominator's message was posted, but there have been no substantive edits to the entry since Benny's review. I pinged the nominator over a week ago, and User:BlueMoonset reached out on the nominator's user talk page about five days ago, but there has been no response. I consulted with BennyOnTheLoose per WP:GAN/I#2O, and I believe we agree that it is time to close the review. The nominator can re-nominate it at any point when he has more availability to respond to GA review feedback.

Before a subsequent nomination here is some additional feedback that editors may wish to consider.

• When we say that Gawande's article "made waves", it seems incomplete not to give the source (and rationale) of that quote. Sure, the reader can look at the reference, but this feels important enough to include in the prose.

• Reliable sources say that Gawande remained chairman of the board for Haven Healthcare when he stepped down as CEO.

• I'm not sure that the reader ever gets a clear sense of what Haven Healthcare does. Is it a chain of medical clinics? A research lab? An investment firm?

• Gawande provided advice on reopening schools amid COVID-19, and it seems to have gotten a fair amount of coverage, but the article hasn't been edited much recently, so that isn't included.

• The section on awards and honors could use some reorganization to enhance readability. It starts off with mentions for being an influential figure in healthcare, then gets into awards based on his research and science writing, then goes back to more "most influential" mentions.

Thanks to the nominator for bringing this article forward. I think this is a good start toward a GA, and once the issues with wording, sourcing and organization get sorted out, I can see this going through the GA process successfully. Closing for now. Larry Hockett (Talk) 18:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks again, Larry Hockett. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:22, 17 August 2020 (UTC)