Talk:Astroecology

Review

Although this article seems well sourced, it will be undergoing a major restructuring to conform to Wiki-style, and facts will be verified with the quoted sources. You are welcome to help. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 20:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC) Observations:

• Most of the article and its crucial content relies on 3 references, all written by Mautner. They are recent and 2 seem peer-reviewed, but relying on one expert's interpretation skews the article toward his bias -whether correct or not. We may need to include a balance (or wider perspective) from publications by other expert researchers.

1. Mautner, M. N. (2002), "Planetary Bioresources and Astroecology. 1. Planetary Microcosm Bioassays of Martian and Meteorite Materials: Soluble Electrolytes, Nutrients, and Algal and Plant Responses", Icarus 158 (1): 72–86, Bibcode 2002Icar..158...72M, doi:10.1006/icar.2002.6841
2. Mautner, M.N. (2005), "Life in the Cosmological Future: Resources, Biomass and Populations", Journal of the British Interplanetary Society 58: 167–180
3. Mautner, M.N. (2000), Seeding the Universe with Life: Securing Our Cosmological Future, Legacy Books, Washington D. C

• The Table is still incomprehensible to me. Rendered invisible for later edit once I (if I) figure what it is trying to show, and show it in a simpler, more accessible manner. BatteryIncluded (talk) 02:30, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I agree - articles from other science expert researchers may be helpful I would think - just wondering -> how much of this Astroecology material, directly or indirectly, may be WP:FRINGE? - esp since some of the images for "directed panspermia" on Wikipedia seem to be related to Raëlian beliefs and practices and/or Cosmic ancestry? - still new to this material - but maybe worth a mention? - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

So far, all the info on astroecology I come across, is written by Mautner. Although his papers are peer-reviewed, they present lots of speculations and extrapolations that are clearely in the fringe. Without a way to balance them with other researchers work, I am attempting to tone it down. BatteryIncluded (talk) 14:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, minimizing (and/or omiting?) questionable materials seems like a good idea - enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 14:30, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Just last week I became aware of the cosmic ancestry hypothesis while dealing with panspermia, and it has nothing to do with the Raelians; I reckon the Raelian lider borrowed the term to syntethize his dogma. In this article I don't want to delete the wild mathematical extrapolations but they seem to rely on the assumption of fantastic spontaneous energy-matter conversions that ignore the laws of physics and the requirements of life - aside from chemical. In Mautner's defense, I believe that his mathematicla model does require to set maximum ranges (which is necessary for further calculations), but they do not grant their exposure in Wikipedia as if they were the "results" of his calculations. I am still trying to find other sources self-described as astroecology. BatteryIncluded (talk) 19:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

• Joining the conversation. There are more researchers talking and writing articles around this topic, today (in 2021). Astrobiology of course is a related (but broader) topic. Closed ecological systems for space habitation is another related topic. Bioregenerative life support systems is a third. Lots of stuff on food in space and human settlement of the Moon and Mars. And there are others. There is probably enough to resurrect the reworking of this Wikipedia article as a discussion of all of the topics that relate to ecology in space.Leeirons (talk) 02:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)