Talk:Assyrians in Turkey

Latest comment: 4 years ago by MixedButHumann in topic Syriacs in Turkey

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Per anonymous User:70.162.99.157 with regards to Assyrians in Turkey:

Please check the correctness of your information. Since the story that this writer is talking about is no more than a roman. Please grasp the truth and do not let the ignorant nationalists dominate the world. We, The Turks, did not commit any masacre. If they have fact or information please disclose it.

Bias

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I have serious neutrality and forking concerns with this article. --Cat out 16:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Example? — EliasAlucard|Talk 07:29 11 Aug, 2007 (UTC)

Assyrians in Turkey

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It is obvious that the editor who wrote the "Assyrians in Turkey" section knows nothing about the Lausanne Treaty--Hattusili 08:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

You may find the text here: [1] and I think anybody who has something to say about minorities in Turkey should read section three --Hattusili 08:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

~~ Which also proves that Turkey has violated the Treaty by flying over Greek airspace in the aegean. I am unclear on what your point is. by ApplesnPeaches ~~

Official name in Turkey

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The official name of the people in Turkey and by the European Union is Syriacs, not Assyrians. It is also what is used by Turkish newspapers. (([2],[3],[4], [5], European Commission), ([6], Turkish government),([7], US gov), ([8], [9], [10],[11], [12], [13], [14], [15], Turkish newspapers)). The TriZ (talk) 23:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hello Triz! If you look closely you'll see that they really aren't talking about the whole people. They are talking about the Syriac Orthodoxes. "Chaldeans" is also used, but separately. Do you think that they would call the Nestorians Syriacs? No, they won't, Triz.
And you should also know that Hurriyet often call our people in Turkey "Assyrians". Shmayo (talk) 22:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Please be more specific, Chaldean is mentioned ONCE in the sources I provided, and it was then refering to the religous denomination. Otherwise they use exclusively Syriacs as to mention to the whole people. The TriZ (talk) 22:48, 28 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Hi Shmayo. Sometimes Süryani is translated into English as Assyrian, but I think we can all agree -- whatever one's beliefs -- that this is not a correct translation. Süryani in Turkish does not refer to Chaldeans or members of the Church of the East. Ordtoy (talk) 06:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

The European Commission and the US gov use "Chaldeans" and "Syriacs" as two different. Syriacs clearly means Syriac Orthodoxes. Otherwise they use exclusively Syriacs as to mention to the whole people. Does it say that they mean the whole people? Or are you saying that because "Chaldeans" and "Nestorians" aren't used as often as "Syriacs"? Well the explanation to that could be that there are much, much more Syriac Orthodoxes in Turkey than there are Nestorians and Chaldeans (probably just a few left, if any). Shmayo (talk) 16:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Really, does it matter? Do you see them use Assyrian? No, they use Syriacs to refer to the people, ergo the articles name should reflect this. The TriZ (talk) 14:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hurriyet uses Assyrian. And the others also use Chaldean. Of course it does matter. Shmayo (talk) 13:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Syriacs in Turkey

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In the Turkish language the Syriac nation is being referred to as Süryani Halki. Assyrians are being reffered to as Asuri halki or as Nasturi.

So the right title of this page would be Syriacs in Turkey as already mentioned above.

MixedButHumann (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)Reply