Talk:Assassination of Sadegh Omidzadeh
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POV tag edit
Heavy reliance on Israeli websites, please do not remove until this is addressed. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've noticed it. There is no problem with using Israeli sources imo but the background section is written with a heavy Israeli bias. Ecrusized (talk) 11:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ecrusized I don't think the "Background" is perfect. There is It needs to be improvement, but we can't just delete it. Eladkarmel (talk) 12:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- but we can't just delete it. Yes we can. Please familiarize yourself with WP:BRD. Also see my comments below. Ecrusized (talk) 12:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I get the point. If you think it should be deleted, then delete (I'm not sure if according to the rules I'm allowed to do this) Eladkarmel (talk) 13:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- but we can't just delete it. Yes we can. Please familiarize yourself with WP:BRD. Also see my comments below. Ecrusized (talk) 12:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ecrusized I don't think the "Background" is perfect. There is It needs to be improvement, but we can't just delete it. Eladkarmel (talk) 12:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Background section edit
@Eladkarmel: The background section is too broad for the scope of this article and adds undue weight. If you want to preserve your changes, please copy edit them to other articles that would be more suitable, such as Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war. Ecrusized (talk) 12:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Furthermore, readding removed unreliable sources is bordering edit warring. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I just wrote to you in the discussion above. I agree that it needs to be improved. But readers should understand the background to the Assassination. Eladkarmel (talk) 12:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't notice the unreliable sources thing. I have restored the "background" paragraph as originally written. Eladkarmel (talk) 12:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Eladkarmel: @Ecrusized: I have just finished reading the ToI and Haaretz sources, neither of which support any claim in the background section. More troublesome is the fact that this background section appears to be original research, you cannot go for one or two year old articles and claim the information in them as background to an assassination. This should be removed. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I am over 1RR so I would support if you reverted this. Ecrusized (talk) 15:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Makeandtoss As I already wrote. I think there must be a "Background". If you think the current paragraph is bad, I'm not against deleting itAs I already wrote. I think there must be a "background". If you think the current paragraph is bad, I'm not against deleting it.Eladkarmel (talk) 15:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree there should be a background section, but this background is defined by RS and not by our research. The background can be found in the articles currently reporting on the strike. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Makeandtoss As I already wrote. I think there must be a "Background". If you think the current paragraph is bad, I'm not against deleting itAs I already wrote. I think there must be a "background". If you think the current paragraph is bad, I'm not against deleting it.Eladkarmel (talk) 15:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I am over 1RR so I would support if you reverted this. Ecrusized (talk) 15:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Eladkarmel: @Ecrusized: I have just finished reading the ToI and Haaretz sources, neither of which support any claim in the background section. More troublesome is the fact that this background section appears to be original research, you cannot go for one or two year old articles and claim the information in them as background to an assassination. This should be removed. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't notice the unreliable sources thing. I have restored the "background" paragraph as originally written. Eladkarmel (talk) 12:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Scope of article edit
Why was the article moved from strike to assassination? It seems to me that most RS are talking about the strike and less frequently about Sadegh. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am planning to redirect the article to Sadegh Omidzadeh once I'm done writing it. The death section should be sufficient for the strike imo. Ecrusized (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)