Talk:Assassination of Donald Trump

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an attack page or a negative unsourced biography of a living person, because... it's a shorthand for the target page (same title as targe page minus one word). --The Mountain of Eden (talk) 18:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Note that the page was a redirect to Attempted assassination of Donald Trump prior to being proposed for speedy deletion. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't see how such a redirect could be characterized as "an attack page or a negative unsourced biography of a living person". The Mountain of Eden (talk) 18:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

He was not assassinated. It being a "shorthand" is no reason to create such a redirect, the search function works just fine in that regard. It's evidently a disparaging redirect at the target, Donald Trump. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:21, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Think of it as a WP:SHORT. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 19:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

So why not create an Attempted of Donald Trump redirect, if that were applicable? ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think such a redirect would be useful, so I'm not going to create it, but I would not contest if you created such a redirect. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 19:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

So we're agreed on that point. I don't see how this redirect is any more useful. If one were to search this title, the Attempted assassination of Donald Trump article is already the very first result. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

We agree that Attempted of Donald Trump would not be a useful redirect. Nothing else. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 20:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Sdrqaz used the proper Wikipedia jargon that I couldn't come up with: Attempted of Donald Trump is not a plausible search term. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 14:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

How exactly is this plausible? ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

CFA answered it perfectly: "Assassination of Donald Trump simply eliminates a word and brings you to the accurate page. He was very nearly assassinated." The Mountain of Eden (talk) 21:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

That's not an adequate answer. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I thnk CFA's answer is adequate, and I presume so does CFA. So I guess the adequacy (or lack there of) of the answer is a matter of opinion, and your opinion appears to be a minority opinion. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 21:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)