Talk:Artie Moore

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My Artie Moore Story page was scheduled for deletion only minutes after addition, due to it being labelled "patent nonsense" by one of your administrators.

I object to this most strongly. The story is something which is renouned locally - an uneducated, crippled young boy who educated himself with very little resource available, who on home made wireless equipment picked up the distress call of the Titanic, and as a result, went to work directly for Marconi himself, as well as patenting an early version of sonar.

Quite an acheievement I would have thought - even in this day and age, let alone at the beginning of the last century. Surely worth an addition to your encyclopedia????? I wonder if you have actually read it?????

It is certainly not patent nonsense - unlike some of the drivel and inane crap you already have accepted.

If you want to delete it go ahead.

Another editor's opinion: I agree that it is not nonsense and that the subject seems notable enough to merit inclusion, but the article appears to be original research, whereas a good Wikipedia article should be encyclopedic in tone and provide proper sources and attribution for the information therein. I have tagged the article as such and removed the speedy tag. --Finngall ^talk 19:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply: Thanks for that constructive response. Unfortunately the story of Artie has never been told before, other than in word of mouth form, and there was a danger of the entire episode being lost in people's memories. I DID research the story from old newspaper articles, cuttings and obituary columns, as well as from people's memories, so I guess there IS some original research in there. However, rather than lose such a fascinating local history, I put it into article form so that it doesn't become lost in the past. I think that the term 'original research' can be taken to the extreme; for instance, if someone discovers the cure for cancer, should they not tell anyone as it could be termed as 'original research'?

If you want to delete the article, I won't protest. It's available elsewhere on the internet and in published form, but thatnks for your reply.

Leighton

To clarify, if someone discovers the cure for cancer, (or somehting similar), they would publish it in the appropriate scientific journals. Once it had been peer reviewed and published, a wikipedia page would follow. For a more relevant and likely example, see the recent discovery of King Herod's tomb. Had the researchers decided to make a wikipedia page on the subject before it was officially announced, they would have encountered problems with OR. As it occured, the information was released through University channels to the media, and only after it hit the press did the information get added to wikipedia. Anyway, if as you say you've gotten your information from other sources (newspapers and the like), then you should be okay, although you may want to cite those sources too.

If I may make one other comment before I stop bothering you, most wikipedia articles have a lead in section. Keep in mind that many people who read this page will come with no prior knowledge of who this person is - start by saying who the person is, and what is significant about them. Keep in mind too, that wikipedia in an encyclopedia, not a magazine article. I hope this information helps, and that i haven't discouraged you. --Bachrach44 00:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I cant believe what I am reading. Artie is a significant person and his work, the mill, his equipment, and the events he witnessed are all historically important. I still cant believe what I just read, shocking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.201.144.62 (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)