Talk:Arthur Rudolph

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Hydrargyrum in topic Sanctuary?

Clarification edit

This article raises more questions than it answers. What exactly did he say or do in 1982/1983 that got him into trouble? Was some old piece of evidence against him uncovered at that time? Why did the Germans not find him guilty of anything? Drutt (talk) 21:36, 21 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

exactly; who in OSI needed a scalp, the timing appears to be OSI driven; apparently the Germans have different priorities, their conduct is verifiable, not their motives, lacking a memoir. Accotink2 talk 20:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Huntsville attorney Dieter Schrader wrote in a letter to the editor of the Huntsville Times that the reason Dr. Rudolph is now back in Germany is not because he allegedly committed crimes at the Mittelwerk, but because "we don't need him anymore." [1] Accotink2 talk 14:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

In personal life, it Implies that upon retirement he moved to California and then suffered a heart attack. Can someone who knows more about this man Clear this up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.169.189.227 (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Reference style edit

This is the first article I've seen with this reference style and I really like it because it puts the ref itself in the ref section, with only a link in the body, making it much easier to read in edit mode. The refs are also well formatted.PumpkinSky (talk) 10:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

This article uses list-defined references and was used to illustrate this method when Cite was updated in September 2009. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:34, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
Very interesting. I'm rather new here so I hadn't seen it before. PumpkinSky (talk) 12:40, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Grammar edit

In the Dentauralization section:

'In 1979, Eli Rosenbaum of OSI, by chance read about Rudolph in a book about moving rocket parts, using forced labor'

What is this saying? Eli Rosenbaum used forced labour to read the book? The book was about rocket parts that move using forced labour? Did the book about moving rocket parts state that Rudolph used forced labour? I actually can't figure out what it's trying to say in order to correct it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.48.125 (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

100% Nazi, dangerous type, security threat... edit

During the war, Rudolph was operations director of the Mittelwerk factory at the Dora-Nordhausen concentration camps, where 20,000 workers died from beatings, hangings, and starvation. Rudolph had been a member of the Nazi party since 1931; a 1945 military file on him said simply: "100% Nazi, dangerous type, security threat..." However, the Nazi Scientist was "bleached" due to an american self interest during the post war "paper clip" operation.

  • During the war, Rudolph was operations director of the Mittelwerk factory
    • Already noted.
  • at the Dora-Nordhausen concentration camps, where 20,000 workers died from beatings, hangings, and starvation.
    • Already noted that slave labor was procured from the adjoining concentration camps
    • Most of the deaths were during construction of the Mittelwerk before Rudolph arrived
    • Hangs already noted; no evidence that Rudolph was involved
  • Rudolph had been a member of the Nazi party since 1931;
    • Already noted
  • a 1945 military file on him said simply: "100% Nazi, dangerous type, security threat..."
    • I keep coming across this but have not seen any reliable source
  • However, the Nazi Scientist was "bleached" due to an american self interest during the post war "paper clip" operation.

--— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 18:44, 22 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Two RSs for the "100% Nazi" quote: Linda Hunt's Secret Agenda (p.30) and the BBC.--Goldsztajn (talk) 15:04, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
And what document stated this? The FBI files have nothing. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 15:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
There's two WP:RS available from a simple search supporting the quote, what RS indicates the statement is false? --Goldsztajn (talk) 18:46, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
I'm dropping out of this; will return in a year. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 21:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
FWIW Linda Hunt references the INSCOM files and not FBI. --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:49, 3 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Sanctuary? edit

The article intro says Rudolph was "a former high-level Nazi given sanctuary by the US government following World War II". Sanctuary from what? Rudolph did not face war crimes charges after the war. He came to the U.S. at the invitation of the U.S. government to assist the U.S. Army in missile research. Also, what is the basis for identifying Rudolph as a "high-level" Nazi? He was an early Nazi party member, but his role as production manager at the V-2 factory was a technical position, not a political one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.215.86 (talk) 21:32, 2 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

It's just the typical leftist/"progressive" bullcrap being written here at Wikipedia, making this site essentially useless for education on political and historic subjects. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)T @ 22:41, 13 May 2017 (UTC)Reply