Talk:Araucaria araucana

Description

This is mentioned: "The female (seed) cones, which mature in autumn about 18 months after pollination". However, I passed one this afternoon, 20-5-2017, in a yard in the Netherlands, that has them fully developed. Hardly autumn, I would say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.30.85.137 (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Monkey Puzzle?

Why exactly would a monkey have trouble climbing the tree? Because the old ones have so few branches or the young ones have branches/leaves that make it difficult? Monkeys (as opposed to apes) can do some amazing gymnastics. I'm guessing a lot of people hit this page to find out what the "monkey puzzle" is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.227.247.82 (talk) 13:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

This is largely Original Research (or speculation) but considering the term originated in England where the vast majority of monkey puzzle trees are young and relatively small, often with branches right down to the ground, I'd guess the term originates from a perception that the leaves would be uncomfortable or even painful to grip. Since almost all of the plant is covered by the leaves there would be nowhere 'safe' for a monkey to place it's hands and feet so climbing one would require a lot of care and careful planning. However whilst I've never seen a monkey climb a monkey puzzle tree I have seen them climb cacti and other sharp/spikey plants extremely quickly so I assume this term has no basis in fact. 82.68.159.246 (talk) 17:33, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

If I may offer more Original Research, these trees are in gardens in the San Francisco Bay area, and I suspect that many of them are more than 100 years old. The pictures included with the article, although excellent, do not do justice to the way the branches of a mature tree intertwine and change direction, although some of the pictures hint at it. While the usual large tree looks like a sort of 3-dimensional maze close up,the trees shown are more or less ordinary in their general form because they are seen from a distance. Trimming the tree makes it worse. A branch may "get the idea" to wrap itself around to the other side of the tree, or shoot upwards and back toward the trunk, or assume a sort of corkscrew shape. The general tendency is to droop a bit and then grow upward, as you can see from the pictures. And as noted above, the tree is practically impossible to climb without protective clothing, although monkeys, with their hands and feet hardened by never wearing gloves of shoes, would presumably be able to manage it. 173.174.85.204 (talk) 19:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)Eric

Tallest

Is there any plant specialist out there who know where the biggest one in Northern Hemisphere is?? --Slimliving4god 21:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Tallest in the UK is 31 m tall (Tree Register of the British Isles). - MPF 13:16, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Iceland

I'm moving the enclosed from the article to here:

Perhaps the south of Iceland would be very suitable for the introduction of this tree, given that this area has a very similar climate than the coast of Norway, but it has not been planted there.

Something along these lines might be appropriate but only if WP:ATT and encylopedic tone can be improved. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants#Original research in several articles for more discussion. Kingdon 18:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Portland Oregon has number of these trees spread throughout the city, planted in the early 1900's. They're around the 20-25 meter range.--71.222.54.25 01:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Media references

The Ghost and Mrs. Muir makes mention of this tree. 24.205.209.106 (talk) 16:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Some new images

I recently uploaded some new photos I took of an Araucaria araucana, below. I realise there are already many images of this tree, but feel free to use if useful. Dcoetzee 19:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

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Monkey puzzle tree related to the "Jet" stone found in British coast

Apparently, the Jet mined for centuries was formed when ancient Monkey puzzle trees where compressed ove millions of years.....

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Diameter

The lead says:

an evergreen tree growing to 1–1.5 m (3–5 ft) in diameter

This is clearly contradicted by the first image in the article, file:Araucaria_en_Parque_Nacional_Conguillio.jpg Not sure what would be correct. Nø (talk) 13:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure there's a contradiction (?) It's kind of difficult to judge in that picture, but to me it looks as though the diameter of the tree *could* be about 1.5m. Assuming the two people in the picture are standing beside the tree, it looks to be about as broad as their two bodies side by side. L T T H U (talk) 13:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah - I read it as the diameter of the crown; clearly you read it as it was intended as the diameter of the trunk. I'll just rephrase, then:

an evergreen tree growing to a trunk diameter of 1–1.5 m (3–5 ft)

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