Talk:Arachosia

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Akmal94 in topic People of Arachosia

wth?

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On 13:03, 8 June 2008 and again on 16:15, 8 June 2008 editor 84.59.205.248 made the following edits.

  • he/she removed the following text from the etymology section:
The region was named after the name of a river that runs through it, in Greek sources known as Arachōtós and in the present-day known as the Arghandab, a tributary of the Helmand.[1]
In the first removal the edit comment was "POV", in the second removal the edit comment was something about Arghandab meaning "conquering waters" in Persian.
I don't have a clue what that editor is on about (the misuse of WP lingo doesn't help much either). There is nothing "POV" about that statement (does anon mean biased?), and what the heck does the New Persian meaning of the name have to do with anything?
Moreover, that statement is sourced. Not just sourced, but sourced to what is perhaps the most reliable tertiary source on everything Iran-related.
  • The sentence,
    "In his list, Ptolemy also refers to a city named Arachotus, today identified with Arghandab that lies just north of present-day Kandahar."
    was corrupted to
    "In his list, Ptolemy also refers to a city named Arachotus, that lies just north of present-day Kandahar."
    Wtf?
  • The word "modern" was inserted into "The Greeks speak of a river Arachotós that ran through Arachosia; this waterway is identified with the modern Arghandab River, a tributary of the Helmand.
    Quite novel use of the word "modern." I had never heard of a river being "modern." Are there "old-fashioned" or "archaic" rivers too? What exactly does "modern" contribute to this sentence?
  • A new addition in the tribes section reads: "The modern descandants of the Arachosians are the Arokha people of Punjab that were forced to live this region in the 10th century."
    Notwithstanding the poor orthography, grammar, and (again) novel use of the word "modern", where are the sources for this assertion? And if these Arokha (who are what?) were resettled in the Punjab in the 10th century, how come they don't have a name that matches "Arghandab" -- that the same editor is trying to somehow suggesting something with? And how come the name 'Arokha' doesn't appear at all on gbooks or gscholar? And even Arokha+Punjab has no hits on regular Google?

These edits are, at best, flaky. This may be due to the editors poor grasp of the English language (the IP address suggests Germany), or it may just be some tribal thing. In any case, unless someone can make sense of the edits in the next few hours, I am going to undo them. -- Fullstop (talk) 22:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Removed unsourced speculation

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An IP editor added "(Does'nt that sound like "Afridi" an indigenous pushtun tribe,also called "Apridae" in today's pushtu)" to the section "Ptolemy (6.20.3) mentions several tribes of Arachosia by name, the Pargyetae (Greek: Παρ(γ)υῆται), and, to the south, the Sidri (Greek: Σίδροι), Rhoplutae (Ῥωπλοῦται), and Eoritae (Ἐωρῖται). Despite attempts to connect the Eoritae with the "Arattas" of the Mahabharata, the identity of these tribes is unknown, and even Ptolemy's orthography is disputed ("Pargyetae" is sometimes rewritten "Parsyetae" or "Aparytae")." I am a non-expert, so don't know to what extent to take this speculation seriously. At any rate I have removed it. TheGrappler (talk) 14:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

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People of Arachosia

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Pacytans did NOT live in Arachosia but up north. The province of Paktia is named after them and the idea of Croats originating from there is quite silly, no historian relies on just name similarities to come to a conclusion where people came from. This should be corrected. Akmal94 (talk) 04:29, 29 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Iranicaarticle was invoked but never defined (see the help page).