Talk:Applegate Trail

Copyvio

Article seem to be copyvio, cut-and-paste, from this source: Applegate Trail. Needs paraphrasing. Katr67 18:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I just stubbified this because of the copyvio. Katr67 (talk) 17:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Path into Oregon

From the map in the article, it looks like the Applegate basically split and entered Oregon in Klamath County, Oregon and is then south of Jackson County, Oregon. So, I'm adding Klamath County back in to the article. I'm not a local expert in this area though. However, the article discusses that Applegate first went through Green Springs and Klamath Lake. This is supported by Archaeological Investigations of the Siskiyou Trail which says "Consequently, in 1846 Levi Scott and Jesse Applegate blazed a trail from the Bear Creek Valley over the Green Springs summit to Klamath Lake and from there to Fort Hall in Idaho (Beckham 1971:39-40). They then convinced an emigrant party of 100 wagons to try their new cut off, arriving in the Rogue River valley that October." It appears that Applegate went through Klamath County and then brought a party back through the more southern route, avoiding Klamath County and entering Oregon in Jackson County. So, the article should mention both counties. Comments?

Also, I think the link to "Greensprings mountain" is bogus, it should be "Green Springs Mountain" Searching GNIS for "Greensprings" in Oregon does not yield anything, but searching for "Green Springs" yields Green Springs Mountain. Cxbrx (talk) 20:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, if it's any consolation, there weren't any counties in the early days. The counties didn't get around to being formed until the early- to mid-1850s.  :-)

The Barlow Road (to a small extent) and the Oregon Trail (to a large one) had a variety of cut-offs, shortcuts, and alternate routes. —EncMstr 21:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I considered listing Klamath county and then took it out, because it appeared that the trail only got to near Merrill before turning south around lower Klamath Lake. It was my assumption from this that it did not get into Oregon. If there is some reason to believe that the trail actually crossed into Oregon at the Merrill area, then I would include Klamath County.Rvannatta (talk) 02:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

The picture should probably be changed. From just looking at that, one would think that it ends in southern Oregon rather than going up to the Willamete Valley. VegaDark (talk) 06:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I've always thought the map was bit odd. It would be nice to have a map of just the Oregon portion. Here's a great resource, both for the route and for expanding the article: http://www.oregonhistorictrailsfund.org/trails/showtrail.php?id=3 What I don't get is why Siskiyou Trail seems to be the same route? Are they synonymous? Both trails follow the original route of Ewing Young: http://www.oregonhistorictrailsfund.org/trails/showtrail.php?id=14 Though here you can see that the Ewing Young route and the Applegate Trail differ slightly: http://www.oregonhistorictrailsfund.org/trails/index.php

User:NorCalHistory, if he is around, might be able to shed some light on the matter. Katr67 (talk) 20:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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bolding question

What is the correct use of bolding? In this article, names of other trails are bolded. Does that conform to WP's norms? Posted this out of curiosity and for my own learning. --Kotlerthebaker (talk) 07:40, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Better map wanted

I was a bit confused by the map on this article when I read it. I did some digging and saw an edit in 2019 that replaced the older map with the current map, which might be a nicer looking map but also doesn't illustrate the Applegate Trail actually going into Oregon.

I see there's been past discussion about the map used in this article, but the new map doesn't fix any of the concerns and actually makes some of them worse. ("The picture should probably be changed. From just looking at that, one would think that it ends in southern Oregon rather than going up to the Willamete Valley", eh?) The older map wasn't fantastic, but I think it may have been a slightly better choice for the article. Ideally it'd be a map that actually shows the full length of the Applegate Trail, but I'm not sure where to find one.

12.6.30.26 (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)