Talk:Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Joaquin89uy in topic Lettre Inédite au General C

Anne Morrow Lindbergh

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Hello. I don't know much about the best way to do this; please bear with me. I have extensively read almost everything written in English on Anne Lindbergh--have read all her diaries and letters, and many other works on the Lindberghs and Antoine de St-Exupery.

I cannot imagine how AML and St.Exupery could have had an affair. They met only for about four or five days at the most: Charles Lindbergh was present or nearby almost all the time; and AML was astonished when CAL said that he saw her affinity for ST.Ex "with jealousy." AML and St. Ex had an immediate and profound intellectual attraction; they communicated (in French) vigorously; she may have had a "crush" on him and the sense that he would have been a better match for her in many ways than Lindbergh-- but I don't think they had sex! I know Wikipedia does not want to hear opinions or even thoughts on the topic of the article. But I urge that this article be more fully researched and that the question of whether these remarkable writers and aviators could have had an affair be clarified. The idea is going around the internet and is being taken as a given by many persons who do not have much of a bent for research or, for that matter, thought.

I have always had problems with Wikipedia and it with me because I don't have the time or patience to work out exactly how to put information in the articles and follow all the rules. Nut I do like Wikipedia and have good intentions. It would be best for all if it is as acccurate as possible.

Pls consider all the source material and the writings of Mrs. Lindbergh's daughter, Reeve Lindbergh. She has never said a word about an affair between her mother and St. Exupery-- and she does not keep things back.

Mrs. Lindbergh did have affairs with 2 other men later on in life. She had to go through psychotherapy and much clarification within herself of her relationship with CAL (whom she did love, even if he was a rather odd person and perhaps a Fifth Columnist or actual Nazi. I don't think he was, I believe he was simply not that aware and incapable of understanding things on a deep level in some respects. he did write well, but he did not see why he ought not so tay "Jews are driring us into war." Anne did and almost left him over this statement, but they had six kids together-- and she was loyal. (Only five survived-- Jon, Land, Scott, Anne Spencer and Reeve).

Well I know you are not interested in all this but there it is. If I can find further information on this I'll add it to the St. Ex page.

BTW don't believe everything you read in "Going Up the Country," by Yvonne DAley, a book with a chapter about Quarry Hill, my home and Vermont's oldest alternative community (also my family's property management business). A lot of it is inaccurate.

Happy thanksgiving.

Isabella Fiske McFarlin (Ladybelle) Ladybelle Fiske (talk) 04:43, 21 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Censorship: clarify paragraph

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Under "Censorship and publication bans" it reads:

"Pilote de guerre (Flight To Arras), describing the German invasion of France, was slightly censored when it was released in its original French in his homeland, by removing a derogatory remark made of Hitler (which French publisher Gallimard failed to reinsert in subsequent editions after World War II). However, shortly after the book's release in France, Nazi appeasers and Vichy supporters objected to its praise of one of Saint-Exupéry's squadron colleagues, Captain Jean Israël, who was portrayed as being amongst the squadron's bravest defenders during the Battle of France."

Confusing. He wrote it in 1942 and first published it in the US, also in French. Why would an exile writer who had found refuge in the US be published in occupied and/or Pétain's France after the US had entered the war against Germany, Vichy's overlord? Actually, how did it work, did books that passed censorship in one part, freely circulate between German-occupied France, and the "free" territory ruled from Vichy? The paragraph should make sense by itself, w/o forcing the reader to do substantial background research. Wiki is not for insiders, and all of this sounds counter-intuitive.

Also, the paragraph has no source indicated. Maybe the one from the next, 2nd paragraph, covers this one too, but is it? And that's not how it works. Unsatisfactory job, needs reworking. Arminden (talk) 21:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Lettre Inédite au General C

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Is this title ok ? I've read it on the web as "Lettre Inédite au General X". - Joaquin89uy (talk) 19:47, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply