Talk:Antoine-Jean Gros

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Isn't it Baron Antoine-Jean Gros, and not Antoine-Jean, Baron Gros? Kelvin Palm 08:22, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Most Baronial titles (and a good deal of the Comital ones) of the Empires use the family name as title, which makes both correct, although I have sometimes seen a distinction made as the second option would be the current holder while the former, in the presence of both, would be a courtesy (but titulature in French nobility is often a nebulous subject)

'Antoine-Jean, Baron Gros' doesn't read well at all in French, it's just like saying Victor, Count Dracula instead of Count Victor Dracula

In English, both forms you just gave for your hypothetical count would be equally likely. - Jmabel | Talk 00:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Visiting the Plague House

The paragraph on Bonaparte Visiting the Plague House at Jaffa has problems; some were just copyedit things, which I fixed, but:

• In what sense is any of Jaffa "part of… Syria"? Its well within Israel, isn't it?
• How does one "massacre" a country?
• Certainly there was nothing unusual about depicting either "an exotic setting" or "a recent event". Does this mean to say that it was precisely the combination of the two that was unusual?

By the way, among the ones that were just copyedits, one was pretty amusing: I presume that "to burst morale" meant "to boost morale", but, of course, it ended up saying more or less the opposite. - Jmabel | Talk 00:02, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Belated reply:

- historically everything between Egypt and Persia was called Syria in the West - from Roman times until at least 1918, but it needs clarifying.

- quite so

- Ambitious history paintings on contemporary subjects were unusual; see the Raft of the Medusa, which I had better add this to. Johnbod 13:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Date of painting Bonaparte at the pont d'Arcole

If the text says it was painted in 1796, why does the caption say Bonaparte at the pont d'Arcole, 1801, or have I missed something - like is it a copy made in 1801 or did Gros complete it in 1801 having started it or viewed the scene in 1796?P0mbal (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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