Talk:Anti-Sikh sentiment in Canada

Rename to 'Anti-Sikh sentiment in Canada'

@Jattlife121 - Hello, should this article be renamed to 'Anti-Sikh sentiment in Canada' to mirror the titles of the currently established articles below?

• Anti-Hindu sentiment
• Anti-Christian sentiment

MaplesyrupSushi (talk) 23:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm open to it, I wasn't 100% sure as there is Islamophobia in Canada as specific country related article. Jattlife121 (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Ultimately there needs to be a parent article created in due course called Anti Sikh Sentiment. Jattlife121 (talk) 00:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I also agree with "sentiment" but not need to capitalize the "S". thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 00:34, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Online sentiment and responses

None of the articles mention specifically "anti Sikh" hate comments, but rather address them as "racist". We cannot interpolate that as anti Sikh sentiment if the article does not explicitly mention it, as that would constitute WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and WP:SYNTH. Further, the screenshots of the comments, which state " "wtf is with the news with these turbin heads" are a primary source, we have to rely on commentary from secondary sources and what they label these comments as- we're not allowed to include them based on our own analysis, opinions or inferences as per WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH and WP:SECONDARY. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 00:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Per this link: Anti Sikh Sentiment Revision with Online Sentiment and Responses

Both articles reference comments related to "Anti-Sikh Sentiment" (this is not an Anti-Sikh Hate Wikipedia Page) specifically as they pertain to the Sikh faith. Anti-Sikh sentiment includes anti-Sikh hate, negative attitudes toward Sikhs, and related expressions.

I don't understand how you can say, we must refer from commentary of secondary sources which is evident per the remarks made and content that these are Sikh Specific. CBC are amongst the most prestigious amongst Canadian News sources.

The articles referenced pertain to comments reflecting "Anti-Sikh Sentiment" specifically related to the Sikh faith, which includes anti-Sikh hate, negative feelings towards Sikhs, and related expressions.

1. CBC Article on Sikh Parade: It is claimed that the information should be derived from secondary sources; however, the screenshots in question have been verified by CBC (a reliable source according to Wikipedia standards) on Twitter in relation to their article on this matter. The article also includes interviews with members of the Sikh community, further substantiating the context. The use of the word "Hindu" shows the intent to belittle the Sikh individual and demean thus would qualify under "Anti-Sikh Sentiment"
2. CBC Vancouver Article: This source is also verified and reliable for citation on Wikipedia. CBC Vancouver responded on their official X (formerly Twitter) account, which later formed the basis of a news article. The specific comment referring to a Sikh person as a "turban head" is recognized as anti-Sikh, targeting religious identity rather than race. This situation was also reported by other reputable news outlets.

Jattlife121 (talk) 23:54, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I am happy to provide further supporting articles. Just note you may expect a delay in my response for a day or two. Jattlife121 (talk) 23:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

It's the same way Sikh individuals were murdered after 9/11 on the assumption they were Muslim because of what they looked like i.e turban and beard. It didn't matter about the religion but solely on appearance.

Same way, these comments were targeted based on the distinct identify of a Sikh. There have been little to no instances on a clean-shaven Sikh man. Jattlife121 (talk) 23:58, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Both articles reference comments related to "Anti-Sikh Sentiment" (this is not an Anti-Sikh Hate Wikipedia Page) specifically as they pertain to the Sikh faith.

None of the articles explicitly say they were subject to anti-Sikh hate, but that they received racist comments online. Do you realize that sometimes people are subject to online hate or discrimination solely because of their race or skin colour, it doesn't necessarily mean the offenders have any specific stance on the person's religion, or are even cognizant of it. A Sikh individual may receive hateful comments based on their race or religion, or both, but unless the source explicitly labels the comments as discrimination pertaining to religion, we cannot include it.

CBC Article on Sikh Parade

Again, this is ridiculous, a troll comment online, practically an inevitability surrounding any event, is hardly noteworthy and barely warrants an article, let alone inclusion in Wikipedia. Again the article does not even explicitly call the comment as "anti Sikh" but rather as racist. So unless you find a legitimate source which mentions it as such, you cant put it in the article.

CBC Vancouver Article

Ditto. And what does CBC's response on Twitter have to do with anything? Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 04:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)