Talk:Anti-Māori sentiment

Latest comment: 15 hours ago by Roger 8 Roger in topic Non-neutral

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Kia ora Fellow Wikipedians

I have started work on this article because of how, despite Wikipedia detailing discrimination and racism towards Māori in various forms, and the term "anti-Māori sentiment" being widespread, there was not an article on this topic. I've been modelling it off other racism articles. Obviously it needs a lot of work, and seeing how incredibly controversial discussing co-governance has been, it needs to be approached diligently and using the best quality sources (ideally academic ones). I also think that "anti-Treatyism" should have its own article, since it is both well-established as an academic topic in its own right and because it is separate to anti-Māori sentiment, with both Māori and Pākehā advocates. Dhantegge (talk) 13:10, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Also can we bump this up to mid importance? thanks Dhantegge (talk) 05:31, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

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I commend your efforts to start a new article and stated aim to use only quality secondary sources. However, a brief read of what you have added makes it quite clear that beneath your cloak of neutrality lies an anger based agenda of division and misinformation. The language alone that you use is an attempt to stear readers in your chosen direction. You recent efforts on other articles lay bare your agenda. I will assume good faith and say you may not realise you have an agenda. I suggest you carefully unravel this article to make it as objective as possible. I agree that academic sources are best, but some are better than others with many writers having a similarly ill informed intent.Roger 8 Roger (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply


Here is an example sentence, that I have removed: "Arguably the first anti-Māori policies were enacted by the colonial government (hereafter 'the Crown') to prevent the realisation of tino rangatiratanga (absolute sovereignty) and Māori law, the "complex system of customary laws" upon which Māori society operated. "Arguably" appears to mean you are excusing yourself for inserting your own opinion into the sentence (and not adding any alternative views on the subject). What 'anti-Maori policies'? The source mentions several 19th century laws that involved Maori. They could equally be described as pro-Maori, certainly in the context of the time they were enacted. The term to use is 'the Crown', not the 'colonial government', unless you are trying to focus our minds on the implied supression of Maori by an overbearing dictatorial authority. 'Tino rangatiratanga' does not mean absolute sovereignty. Maori had no concept of sovereignty in 1840 which created a major problem for the British at the time. Please do not use current interpretations of words and concepts to determine what happened 200 years ago. Similarly, do not try to judge one group by the values and practices of another group when they are so diametrically opposite to each other. That was, again, a major problem for the British in the 1830s. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 22:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply