Talk:Anti-Lebanon mountains
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Article Suggestion/Proposal
editGiven that there's a major geopolitical struggle going on there, shouldn't there be a section about it, or at least a reference longer than three words? I can try to write something up that's impartial and fact-based to make the article more informative, but since this is a sensitive topic, I want to clear it with some people here before I do. 2600:1700:7C00:3AD0:51A4:255D:CEE5:FD72 (talk) 16:31, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
The Anti-Lebanon Moutains
editWhy are they called the the Anti-Lebanon Moutains, is there some war I should know about?
- "Anti" is opposite in Greek. They are opposite to the Lebanon Ridge.--Doron 08:22, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
- "Anti" also means against something. So why are the mountains have a hateful name against Lebanon.--The Shadow Treasurer (talk) 05:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
- As Doron already told you, they lie against (=across from) Mount Lebanon. You could also understand the name as meaning "opposed to Lebanon the country" but that would be foolishly misunderstanding the name, particularly since you have 2 editors and a wikipedia page in front of you, all three of which are telling you it doesn't mean what you thought it did. — LlywelynII 23:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- "Anti" also means against something. So why are the mountains have a hateful name against Lebanon.--The Shadow Treasurer (talk) 05:51, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I thought this response is a bit rude. 122.106.83.10 (talk) 10:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Title move and re-write
editI have re-named the article with 'mountains' in it's name; the previous title sounded political, not geographic. I have also re-written the article to make it more geographically coherent. CasualObserver'48 (talk) 08:05, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- I removed hebrew translation since the entire mountain range is in two Arab countries: [1] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 18:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well, that was a mistake. Israel's name for the mountains is also topical, particularly within biblical contexts. — LlywelynII 23:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Evidence Mount hermon is not in Israel
editEU: http://www.europa-eu-un.org/articles/en/article_6477_en.htm "Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan"
US: http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/9570.pdf Israeli settlements in occupied territories, Golan.
UN: http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/45fa5e8e2.html "Resolution adopted by the General Assembly 61/120. The occupied Syrian Golan The General Assembly, Having considered the report of the Special Committee to Investigate Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People and Other Arabs of the Occupied Territories,1 Deeply concerned that the Syrian Golan, occupied since 1967, has been under continued Israeli military occupation, Recalling Security Council resolution 497 (1981) of 17 December 1981, Recalling also its previous relevant resolutions, the most recent of which was resolution 60/108 of 8 December 2005, Having considered the report of the Secretary-General submitted in pursuance of resolution 60/108,2 Recalling its previous relevant resolutions in which, inter alia, it called upon Israel to put an end to its occupation of the Arab territories, Reaffirming once more the illegality of the decision of 14 December 1981 taken by Israel to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration on the occupied Syrian Golan, which has resulted in the effective annexation of that territory, Reaffirming that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible under international law, including the Charter of the United Nations, Reaffirming also the applicability of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949,3 to the occupied Syrian Golan, Bearing in mind Security Council resolution 237 (1967) of 14 June 1967, _______________ 1 See A/61/500. 2 A/61/327. 3 United Nations, Treaty Series, vol. 75, No. 973. A/RES/61/120 2 Welcoming the convening at Madrid of the Peace Conference on the Middle East on the basis of Security Council resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 and 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973 aimed at the realization of a just, comprehensive and lasting peace, and expressing grave concern about the stalling of the peace process on all tracks, 1. Calls upon Israel, the occupying Power, to comply with the relevant resolutions on the occupied Syrian Golan, in particular Security Council resolution 497 (1981), in which the Council, inter alia, decided that the Israeli decision to impose its laws, jurisdiction and administration on the occupied Syrian Golan was null and void and without international legal effect and demanded that Israel, the occupying Power, rescind forthwith its decision; 2. Also calls upon Israel to desist from changing the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure and legal status of the occupied Syrian Golan and in particular to desist from the establishment of settlements; 3. Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken or to be taken by Israel, the occupying Power, that purport to alter the character and legal status of the occupied Syrian Golan are null and void, constitute a flagrant violation of international law and of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949,3 and have no legal effect; 4. Calls upon Israel to desist from imposing Israeli citizenship and Israeli identity cards on the Syrian citizens in the occupied Syrian Golan, and from its repressive measures against the population of the occupied Syrian Golan; 5. Deplores the violations by Israel of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949; 6. Calls once again upon Member States not to recognize any of the legislative or administrative measures and actions referred to above; 7. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the General Assembly at its sixty-second session on the implementation of the present resolution."
Not in Israel
editI reverted 87.68.49.206s edits because the entire mountain range is completely within Syria and Lebanon, and not in Israel.[2] Also compare this IPs edit with Stellarkids/Dajudems sock at Belfast: [3][4] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 15:32, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Sources for future article expansion
editThis was listed as "Further reading", but those sections are generally ill-advised unless there's an expert on hand to curate them.
- James, Edward Boucher (1854). Smith, William (ed.). Dictionary of Greek and Roman Geography. Vol. 1. London: John Murray. pp. 140, 141. . In
Just reinclude it as a source once it's being used to verify statements within the article. — LlywelynII 23:08, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Regarding Israeli occupation and the Hebrew language name
editI noticed a reversion of my edit, which re-added the Hebrew name of the Mountains next to the Arabic name. As with other areas de facto administered Israel on Wikipedia, the Hebrew name is usually given as well as the Arabic name, as it is pointless to only show one and I do not see how it is any different in this case. Jaydowg1914 (talk) 18:47, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
- only exclusively a small part of Mount Hermon is occupied by israel and that article has the hebrew translation. There is no reason for the entire Anti-Lebanon mountain range to have the hebrew translation. It would be like adding the hebrew translation for Syria in the Syria article because Israel occupies a part of it.--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 18:06, 24 January 2022 (UTC)