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Removal or not of Albanian Location Names edit
As for Ammoudia: Same with Kallivretakis. His data is outdated. A lot of articles will have the Greek name removed. And btw do you recall the statement "Look, I have no issue with the neighboring settlements like Agia, Margariti, and Anthousa, but this is a real stretch." [1] ? AlexBachmann (talk) 22:17, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Khirurg I'll mention you before you start a discussion at another talkpage. AlexBachmann (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- @AlexBachmann: Don't make threats to remove reliable sources. Why did you remove the Greek name from Piqeras and Lukovo even though there are sources that say there are Greeks in town? Khirurg (talk) 23:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- Do you agree to restore the Greek name at Piqeras and Lukovo is the Albanian name is restored here and at Agia? I would agree to that. We can't have a situation where the Greek name is removed from articles with a documented Greek presence, while the Albanian name is added to articles with a less certain Albanian presence. Khirurg (talk) 23:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- There is definitely a double standards approach on this. Let's make it straight: should we consider a 10% of the modern population as a threshold for the addition of alternative names? If yes (as in the case in Piqeras) then the alternative name should be removed here.Alexikoua (talk) 04:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I will agree to keep the name in Lukovë and Piqeras when the Albanian name wil stay here, Agia and Ammoudia. It's also significant to mention that the two towns in Albania only have been recorded as a small minority by Kallivretakis while Ammoudia was completely Albanian-speaking. And that's the best data we have. However, I do not agree to establish a 10 % rule. Every change should require consensus. AlexBachmann (talk) 11:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Very well. When the Greek name is restored to Lukove and Piqeras, I will restore the Albanian name here, Agia, and Ammoudia. Khirurg (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've changed my opinion. Unless the Albanian name doesn't go into Parga and Igoumenitsa, I don't agree to include it in Lukova and Piqeras. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:05, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Very well. When the Greek name is restored to Lukove and Piqeras, I will restore the Albanian name here, Agia, and Ammoudia. Khirurg (talk) 14:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- I will agree to keep the name in Lukovë and Piqeras when the Albanian name wil stay here, Agia and Ammoudia. It's also significant to mention that the two towns in Albania only have been recorded as a small minority by Kallivretakis while Ammoudia was completely Albanian-speaking. And that's the best data we have. However, I do not agree to establish a 10 % rule. Every change should require consensus. AlexBachmann (talk) 11:39, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- There is definitely a double standards approach on this. Let's make it straight: should we consider a 10% of the modern population as a threshold for the addition of alternative names? If yes (as in the case in Piqeras) then the alternative name should be removed here.Alexikoua (talk) 04:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- There are also Albanian immigrants in Ioannina, but I'm not seeking any name in the lede anymore. (About 10% of the population is not of Greek ethnic background. Of these the great majority are Albanian) [2] AlexBachmann (talk) 11:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- Do you agree to restore the Greek name at Piqeras and Lukovo is the Albanian name is restored here and at Agia? I would agree to that. We can't have a situation where the Greek name is removed from articles with a documented Greek presence, while the Albanian name is added to articles with a less certain Albanian presence. Khirurg (talk) 23:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- @AlexBachmann: Don't make threats to remove reliable sources. Why did you remove the Greek name from Piqeras and Lukovo even though there are sources that say there are Greeks in town? Khirurg (talk) 23:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)