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I dispute the claim that the article fails the notability guidelines. The page does include the "significant coverage" from "reliable sources" as outlined in WP's GNGs; namely, the Kotaku article detailing the beginnings of his career, as well as his interview with the publishing staff at English Light Novels. Both sources "address[...] the topic directly and in detail", so are clearly significant, and both are obviously of “editorial integrity” and clearly fall into the category of “published works in all forms and media”. Neither were “produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it”, so they additionally clear the independence hurdle. Overall, based on the existence of suitable sources, as the GNGs put it, this subject clearly meets the criteria for notability and should stay up. Gflare (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
As Steiner and I are acquaintances, I've been hesitant to even look this article, but I'm actually unsure about whether he meets WP:GNG. The Kotaku source is good, but the ELN source... it's certainly usable as a source of information, but as an interview it does not actually do anything towards notability, as the GNG asks for sources that are independent of the article subject (if it were part of a larger feature on him, that'd be one thing, but this is just Steiner answering questions about himself and his work). The rest of the sources cited are Steiner himself, his publishers, and the Anime News Network encyclopedia (which unlike the ANN editorial content is not a usable source on WP since it is user-edited). That means we have only one source (Kotaku) that does anything toward meeting GNG (unless more exist that haven't been found and incorporated into the article), and I would expect at least three sources before I'd be comfortable with dedicating a stand-alone article to a subject.--AlexandraIDV 09:17, 2 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have added as an additional source a piece of ANN editorial content (specifically, a news article) discussing the closure of Sol Press. In the article, Hodgson is provided "significant coverage" that is independent from him, as he is cited as an industry veteran and discusses his time working for the company, his experience with its leadership, and why he believes the company ran aground.
This clearly contributes to his notability, and together with the Kotaku article, definitively meets the general notability requirement of having "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject", even ignoring all other sources in this article.
Furthermore, looking into the specific notability standards for creative professionals, it is evident that Hodgson meets number 3, namely that "the person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work [that has] been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews [...]". Several of Hodgson's work, including Stein;Gate and Smartphone, qualify as this. Though this is of course the standard and not the requirement, Hodgson's obvious meeting of it furthers demonstrates how this article does indeed rise to the notability standards of Wikipedia.
Because I understand and respect the fact that disagreements such as these must be resolved by consensus, I will not be removing the notability guidelines banner until I have received agreement from the parties involved here, namely User:Alexandra_IDV and User:Onel5969. Please also let me know if you continue to oppose removing the banner, in which case we can continue dialogue until consensus is reached. Gflare (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
It has now been eight months, and without objection raised as to my proposal to remove the notability banner, I will consider consensus to have been reached and will be taking down the banner now. Please let me know if you continue to object to this action, and we can discuss it further. Gflare (talk) 20:13, 23 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
