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Andrew Gillison c. 1915

... that Australian military chaplain Andrew Gillison died on 22 August 1915 of wounds sustained while trying to rescue an injured soldier from no mans land?

Source: I've cited it to a book that had more detail but you can get the outline readily from: >McKernan, Michael. "Andrew Gillison (1868–1915)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. National Centre of Biography, Australian National University. Retrieved 16 July 2024.

ALT1: ... that Australian military chaplain Andrew Gillison took up arms to snipe at Turkish soldiers in Gallipoli? Source: "Gillison used his well tried target-shooting skills to participate enthusiastically in sniping and counter sniping" from: Walter, John (28 February 2019). The Sniper Encyclopaedia: An A-Z Guide to World Sniping. Casemate Publishers. p. 236. ISBN 978-1-78438-242-1.
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Comment: ALT0 would be good to run on 22 August

Created by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 859 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 13:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC).Reply

I'll review this. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 02:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - 44% similarity to a Sight Magazine article according to copyvio detector: here

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Overall: Image is public domain, article is new and sourced. However, it seems there are possible plagiarism issues and I also do not find either hook that interesting to be honest, and not sure if ALT1 is particularly neutral. The fact about him being the only Australian chaplain to die there is perhaps more interesting. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Arcahaeoindris, can you review the paraphrasing please. I reworded "appointed a part-time chaplain to the Australian military" from the lead which in summarising the article I had returned to wording close to the source. The rest of the things flagged look to be proper names of organisations or quotes which I have attributed in the article. Can you please advise on the neutrality issue, is it a concern with WP:NPOV of the article? If with the hook then the requirement at Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Guidelines only applies to living persons. That he took up arms whilst being a chaplain was certainly the most interesting fact in the article for me. Happy to look at alternatives though, I have drafted the one you recommended and a couple of others below - Dumelow (talk) 06:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

ALT2:... that, on 22 August 1915, Andrew Gillison became the only Australian chaplain to be killed in the Gallipoli campaign? (source: "Gillison was the only chaplain killed at Gallipoli but all knew that they risked death constantly" source: Defence Force Journal. Department of Defence. 1989. p. 81.. NB: Defence Force Journal is published by the Australian Department of Defence, so is written from that point of view. I know of William Jospeh Finn, a British chaplain that was killed there.)
ALT3: ... that, when chaplain Andrew Gillison was killed on 22 August 1915, the 14th Battalion "suffered the greatest loss it had yet incurred in the death of any one man"? (Source: "On this day (August 22) the 14th suffered yhe greatest loss it had yet incurred in the death of any one man" from: Wanliss, Newton (1929). The History of the Fourteenth Battalion, A. I. F.: Being the Story of the Vicissitudes of an Australian Unit During the Great War. 14th Battalion. p. 71.)
ALT4: ... that among the last words in the diary of chaplain Andrew Gillison before his death at Gallipoli were "I never beheld such a sickening sight in my life and hope it may not be my lot again"? (Source " 'I never beheld such a sickening sight in my life and hope it may not be my lot again'. His diary ends on that sad note" from: McKernan, Michael. "Andrew Gillison (1868–1915)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. National Centre of Biography, Australian National University. Retrieved 16 July 2024.. You can also read the diary itself at "Wallet 1 of 1 - Diary relating to the service of Chaplain Andrew Gillison, 1914 - 1915 Page 147/147". Australian War Memorial. Retrieved 16 July 2024. it is the penultimate sentence)
ALT5: ... that Andrew Gillison was the first Australian chaplain to be killed in the First World War? (Source:"Gillison, of the Fourteenth Battalion, of the Fourth Infantry Brigade, was the first of the Australian army chaplains to be killed" from: Hogue, Oliver (9 December 2019). Trooper Bluegum at the Dardanelles: Descriptive Narratives of the More Desperate Engagements on the Gallipoli Peninsula. Good Press. pp. 120–121.

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