Talk:Amethyst (disambiguation)

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Jerzy in topic Highly questionable inter-lang link
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Highly questionable inter-lang link edit

   I commented at the end of the Dab page as follows:

N.B. that this inter-lang link is highly questionable, since IL lks from Dabs must go to Dabs and by :en:WP standards, sl:Amethyst is *not* a Dab bcz one of its only 2 links is to sl:Seznam vojaških plovil Kraljeve vojne mornarice which (1) provides no Amethyst info beyond implying that the word is a RN ship name, and (2) sends the user via its mock-blue-lk re sl:HMS Amethyst to another mock-Dab, consisting of red lks and one introductory blue lk back to sl:Seznam vojaških plovil Kraljeve vojne mornarice!

   Now find that a bot has separated the IL and the comment, by reversing their order and adding between them a lk to a Dab in the German WP. (BTW, that :de: Dab satisfies me as a legitimate target of an IL lk, for two reasons:

  1. I favor an interpretation of WP:DabRL whereby (English WP) Dab pages may have a single blue lk directly referring to a page reasonably referenceable by the base name of the Dab (or by the usual cast of very close variants) and one more blue link, in a "See also" section, to a Dab or article that reasonably could (tho perhaps mistakenly) be sought via the base name. (Siehe auch means "see also.)
  2. Besides, i have the impression the German WP has at least in practice a policy or guideline contrary to the principal substance of WP:DabRL, and i don't think our expectations about what a Dab should look like should be pushed to the point of disrupting links that take some users to encyclopedic -- as opposed to merely lexicographic -- info.)

   What i originally failed to note is besides the mock-blue-lk that leads on toward no relevant prose articles, the other of its 2 links is red. It is not a Dab bcz Dabs disambiguate among *articles* to which a title could apply, not potential titles for non-existent articles, which 1) is much further from our standard than is :de:'s apparent standard, and 2) fulfills no encyclopedic function.
   I regarded the comment (visible only to those who edited or viewed the markup in the edit pane) as an "noninvasive" contribution to remedying the apparent problem, but the bot pretty well trashed it, and other bots may similarly intervene. I'm now putting both a text and the IL lk inside comments, and a bot may restore the IL and/or move the link again to a less pertinent location. If so, the reappearance of the :sl: IL lk is a signal that will permit those who read this (and see no note explaining the restoration) to track down the bot and notify its owner that the matter will need more attention (if necessary, via the Slovenian WP's "embassy" on :en:).
--Jerzyt 03:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)Reply