Talk:Amerika (song)

• How about adding a reference to the line "coca cola, sometimes war"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.197.97.232 (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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This is not a love song

This is not a love song is a song by Public Image Ltd.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.82.107.145 (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Exactly. It should be mentioned in the article that the phrase in the lyrics is a deliberate quote from the 1983 song of the same name by Public Image Ltd. It also makes a lot of sense within Rammstein's song to quote the PIL song: The 1983 song is an overt satire on US-American "free enterprise" and Reagonomic supply-side aka trickle-down economics within the Greed Decade of the 80s that gave rise to modern neoliberalism ("happy to have, not to have-not", "big business is very wise", and also note how the 1983 music video mainly consists of Johnny Rotten as an arrogant noveau rich being driven around in a Rolls Royce convertible by a servant driver and in front of finance-Capitalist temples of towers of concrete, glass, and steel). As the touchy-feely, New-Agey 70s began "crossing ovah" into the neoliberal 1980s where everybody just wanted to get rich and famous and be all superficial, Rotten was satirizing how the touchy-feely New Age snowflakes of the 70s were changing into arrogant, selfish, rude, and unfeeling Capitalist killing machines where everybody was competing with everyone to the (financial) death in the arena of a "free enterprise" market, hence the song's title of "This is not a love song". It's certainly no coincidence that the song originally appeared on an album titled Commercial Zone.

As said, it makes a lot of sense for Rammstein to be quoting the 1983 song in their own satirical song Amerika, obviously in reference to the USA's role as the vanguard of global Capitalism. But again, at the very least, it should be mentioned that the line in the lyrics is a definite, deliberate quote from the 1983 PIL song.

Another reference that should be mentioned in the article would be where Rammstein apply ritual native-American war paint to their faces; this is in obvious reference to the film Dead Man (1995). And what should foinally be mentioned is what instrumental solo they're quoting in the middle, that part that in the music viode is played on the pinball machine as a synthesizer. Either it's Space oddity by David Bowie or something by Jean-Michel Jarre. Or, could it perhaps even be a distorted musical quote from the chords/melody of This is not a love song again? --79.242.203.134 (talk) 20:20, 29 July 2017 (UTC)