Talk:American Radiator Building/GA1

Latest comment: 3 years ago by GeneralPoxter in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: GeneralPoxter (talk · contribs) 19:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply


Review

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Lead/infobox

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  • Lead claims architects were John Howells and Raymond Hood, both infobox and article body claim architects were Raymond Hood and André Fouilhoux, and it is unclear in the body what exactly Howells did.
    •   Fixed I removed Howells from the lead. Not sure why he was even mentioned here. Epicgenius (talk) 20:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
      • All right. Should Howells and Hood employed their frequent collaborator Rene Paul Chambellan for the ornamentation and sculptures. also be corrected or given some context (this is now the first mention of Howells in the article)?
  • NYCL Number could use a ref since NRHP has one.
  • Lead claims only Gothic style, but infobox and article body also include Art Deco.
  • Building height and other technical details could be included in the infobox.

1. Site

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  • The American Radiator Building is between Fifth and Sixth Avenues, which forms the southern border of Bryant Park. Isn't the southern border of Bryant Park West 40th Street?
    •   Fixed Whoops, I forgot to mention 40th Street there. (As there's only one 40th Street in Manhattan, I don't generally include the cardinal direction for west/east streets, as they're mainly used to distinguish between similar addresses.) Epicgenius (talk) 20:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • The surrounding block of 40th Street had contained brownstone row houses through the 1920s... Should it be explicitly mentioned in the text that these brownstones were razed to make way for the building?

2. Design

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  • ...so the south facade of the base and tower were continuous. Why in the past tense? Ditto for Conversely, the slight setbacks and the indented corners ensured there would be some air between the tower and all adjacent buildings.
  • The 1916 Zoning Resolution strongly influenced the building's shape. This seems a bit redundant since just the paragraph before, we were discussing the Zoning Resolution's influence on the building's setbacks.
  • ...but it had a revolving door at the center. Is the door no longer there? What is there in its place now?
  • ...the gold-leafed terracotta decorations of the American Radiator Building... This is the first time that terracotta is mentioned. Were the decorations discussed previously not of terracotta?
  • Do you know when/why they stopped lighting up the building at night? (discussions of lights have all been in the past tense)
  • Other parts of the building were sometimes illuminated as well; in 1928, eleven stories were lit in the shape of a cross to raise awareness for tuberculosis management. Isn't this more to do with the building's History than its Facade design?
  • The annex has either 75,000 sq ft (7,000 m2) or 91,000 sq ft (8,500 m2) of space. Why is there such a significant margin of difference? Do the sources have different methodologies that could be elaborated in the article?
  • Power was drawn directly from electric mains under the street. Why past tense? Ditto for other sentences in Lower stories

3. History

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  • Why are the Raymond Hood + John Mead Howells planning details placed outside of Development?
  • No mention of Fouilhoux during the development phase (except for the architecture firm's office space)?
  • What is the difference between Clio Court and Clio Biz?
  • Who is Philip Pilevsky (is he a professional hotel developer, or somebody who does this as a sort of side job)?

4. Critical reception

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References

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  • Sources appear reliable to me.

Judgement

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Article overall is well-written, interesting, broad in coverage, neutral, reliably cited, and well-illustrated. There are some minor issues in the prose, but apart from that, this article appears well on its way to GA. Putting on hold until September 7. GeneralPoxter (talkcontribs) 02:58, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@GeneralPoxter: Thanks for the review. I've addressed all these issues now. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
No problem, your fixes look good to me. Passing. GeneralPoxter (talkcontribs) 20:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
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