Talk:American Communist Party
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Protect page - recent, repeated vandalism
editThis page has been hit with some vandalism and I have a feeling it's going to increase. Is there someone who's able to protect the page? Zenphia1 (talk) 16:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can't, but it's obnoxious that people are trying to label the party as fascist and far-right. SSBelfastFanatic (talk) 16:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- While that may or may not be true, the page consists of one sentence with absolutely no references or verification and has been tagged for deletion on grounds of lack of significance. Visigoth500 (talk) 18:23, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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Incorrect information about a cryptocurrency scheme, which is entirely unaffiliated with ACP, does not constitute the basis for a wikipedia edit that constitutes defamation. ACP is neither "MAGA Communist" nor "far-right." As with other parties, the information pertaining to the wikipedia page should reflect the party's own statements. These statements refer to Marxism-Leninism and it is inappropriate to speculate otherwise.
Claims of Fascism
editPeople have been claiming the party is neo-fascist and MAGA communist. The source that supposedly proves this is over a month old and never even mentions the party. It is a COMMUNIST party, and unless someone says that the party is fascist, we should keep it as communist. SSBelfastFanatic (talk) 21:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- This. There's nothing to suggest that they're fascist. I'm tired of the liberal slander. 102.113.185.199 (talk) 00:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a discussion forum. Stick to sources and the article itself. andrew.robbins (talk) 00:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Alternative to Article Deletion
editSince this page is relatively new, as is the formal announcement[?] of the American Communist Party (not to be confused with CPUSA), I think that a better option than deletion would be editing this page to a higher standard, finding more (and better) sources, and liberal use of the word allegedly until party actions can be judged on their own merits.
As a direct example, given its founder, Jackson Hinkle, self-describes himself as an, "American Conservative Marxist-Leninist,"[1] which are inherently incompatible ideologies, as well as his track record of supporting Vladimir Putin in the Russian invasion of Ukraine,[2][3][4][5] misinformation, disinformation, and describing himself as a, "MAGA Communist,"[6][7] [sic] it can be assumed that Hinkle is being disingenuous in his creation of a Communist party.
This is likely intended as a 5th Column to dissolve proletarian solidarity, and consequently this article should especially be observed from an objective point-of-view, taking careful care to neither have Communist nor American conservative bias - this page may also benefit from being restricted to ensure this status, as well as preventing future vandalism.
- ^ https://www.thejc.com/news/world/who-is-jackson-hinkle-twitters-most-viral-misinformation-spreader-and-anti-israel-activist-m9kzki7y
- ^ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-israel-hamas-war-misinformation-twitter-community-notes/
- ^ https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/newsletter-russian-disinformation-antisemitism-propaganda/
- ^ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/jackson-hinkle-anna-linnikova-dating/
- ^ https://web.archive.org/web/20231031191835/https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/10/31/hispantv-is-irans-propaganda-arm-in-latin-america-why-is-it-still-being-broadcast/
- ^ https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qk4b/what-the-hell-is-magacommunism
- ^ https://chinamediaproject.org/2024/07/02/maga-communism-and-the-china-grift/
Madamepestilence (talk) 22:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- The information is contradictory, so I agree that we shouldn’t set anything in stone regarding the party’s beliefs and ideology. Ideally some decently trustworthy news outlet will report on this, as the only info available at the moment is from untrusted sources or outdated. SSBelfastFanatic (talk) 22:47, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
MAGACommunism isn't an actual ideology
editAnd it doesn't belong on the article.
MAGACommunism is merely the recognition that communism in the USA will likely come from the MAGA blue collar working class. Haz said so. It is at best a slogan, and at worst merely a meme.
Marxism Leninism and Deng Xiaoping Theory are more accurate representations of the positions of the ACP based on what Haz and Hinkle have previously espoused before.