Talk:American Acclimatization Society

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They Dined on Eland: The Story of the Acclimatisation Societies By Christopher Lever Edition: illustrated Published by Quiller Press, 1992 ISBN 1870948599, 9781870948593 224 pages

Looks like an excellent source for this. Since i live across the street from the brooklyn library, i have no excuses. But it aint going to be me today. Maybe someday.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

At very least, it could be nice to have a note about when the AAS disbanded. Youngwilliam (talk) 10:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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The Eugene Schieffelin article says there is no evidence that Shakespeare was the motivation. —Blotwell 03:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Well, that's unsourced. Whereas the other article has lots of sources saying that it did.173.63.22.131 (talk) 03:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Reply
Correction, it's apparently sourced, but to an offline book (can't confirm it -- let's assume that's that books claim). Lots of sources attribute the other way in the other article. Not sure what to do then.173.63.22.131 (talk) 03:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

More on this, here are the relevant cites from this article. Tinkering with Eden pg. 136 -- "Shiefflin, in his own attempt to civilize the beast his country had become, wanted to introduce to central park all the birds mentioned in the plays of Shakespeare." Pg. 147 "Schieflin incorporated the birds of shakeskeare succesfully into the story of america..." There are of course many others. Perhaps the best thing is to note in both articles that it's a matter of some dispute. "So and so (the guy cited in the schiefflin article) says there's little evidence for this wide-spread belief, but x, y and z report that this was his motivation."173.63.22.131 (talk) 13:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

I'm a historian who's written two books about birds, and spent considerable time in the archival record trying to establish that Schieffelin had a Shakespearean bent. I found none. Just because something is published in a book doesn't mean it's accurate, and this is a particular myth that's been carried forward uncritically for many decades. Daniel Lewis, Ph.D. 20:56, 27 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilokid (talkcontribs)