Talk:Amenemhat I

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Cadwallader in topic Invalid Citation

Heft 9: Die Lehre des Königs Amenemhet I. edit

Further reading edit

  • Wolfgang Kosack: Berliner Hefte zur ägyptischen Literatur 1 - 12: Teil I. 1 - 6/ Teil II. 7 - 12 (2 Bände). Paralleltexte in Hieroglyphen mit Einführungen und Übersetzung. Heft 9: Die Lehre des Königs Amenemhet I. an seinen Sohn. Verlag Christoph Brunner, Basel 2015. ISBN 978-3-906206-11-0.

Invalid Citation edit

The Turin Canon partially preserves Amenemhat I's praenomen in the twentieth entry of the sixth column and accords him a reign of 29 years.[31][1]

The sentence has citation #31 in the current version, which links to Kitchen 1980, pp. 827 & 834. The full citation is: Kitchen, Kenneth A. (1980). Ramesside Inscriptions: Historical and Biographical. Vol. 3. Oxford: Blackwell. OCLC 254744548. I own this book, and there is no such statement on pages 827 and 834 which are Kitchen's transcriptions of stelae of Rameses II in the Turin Museum in Italy. Cadwallader (talk) 15:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Cadwallader: It's referencing the wrong volume, it should be 2. You'll find Amenemhat I's praenomen on line 20 of page 834. The other cited page just references the start of the Turin canon transcription. Mr rnddude (talk) 21:07, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I've also corrected 'partially preserves' to 'contains' as that's unverifiable. Mr rnddude (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Except it doesn't contain the full praenomon, it only contains the last symbol, with the rest in lacuna. See https://pharaoh.se/turin-kinglist-column-6 Column 6.20. "All but ending of the name is lost, but Amenemhat I's prenomen Sehotepibra is the only possibility. " Cadwallader (talk) 01:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Alright, I've re-instated 'partially preserves'. The hieroglyphic inscription on the linked to web page retains two hieroglyphs comprising -pib- and a horus bird. I wasn't entirely sure whether to interpret Kitchen's shading as meaning lost or damaged. It lines up with the pharaoh.se article which says lost. Mr rnddude (talk) 08:57, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for squaring that away, Mr mdude. Cadwallader (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply