Talk:Allin Institute

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This article was nominated for deletion on 20/12/2016. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've debated tagging this for notability for a few days (not least as an AfD discussion considered that the subject possibly is notable), but in honesty I'm not sure I agree. Contributors to the AfD discussion (opened and closed relatively quickly) noted that, because the subject was listed in the National Inventory of Architectural Heritage, that possibly made it inherently notable. In honesty I don't think this follows. The NIAH (which is a great resource and which I personally use all the time) is intended to cover almost every single structure built in Ireland since c.1700. (To compliment the Archaeological Survey of Ireland which focuses on structures which predate c.1700). As a result, the NIAH database contains >53,000 entries. Many of which are just houses or even post boxes. Each of these 53,000 entries do not inherently or automatically meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, and so GNG or other criteria would need to be independently and individually met.

Personally, I don't see that the subject in this case meets the core WP:GNG guideline. (Yes, the Allin Institute building is mentioned in the NIAH [but then so are >53,000 other structures], and yes it is mentioned in the DIA [in the same vein], and yes it is shown on a "map of older buildings in Bandon" [as per the link I added myself], but that's about it. There's limited to no other coverage elsewhere that is non-trivial in nature.) If other editors have other thoughts, then I'd happily (even gratefully) get back-in-my-box. But I am not seeing anything that makes this building historically notable in a way that meets the relevant criteria. (And, had the AfD been open a little longer, I'd have express as much then).

In short, the AfD discussion seems to have applied WP:GEOFEAT, on the understanding that the NIAH is a record of structures that have been "officially assigned the status of cultural heritage or national heritage, or of any other protected status on a national level". As per the above, this is not the case, the NIAH is a record of pretty much ALL structures - not protected/listed/significant ones.

Guliolopez (talk) 15:30, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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