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![]() | On 21 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Allied naval bombardments of Japan. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
In the photograph titled "USS Massachusetts firing a full main battery salvo at Kamaishi" ...
edit... might that cluster of slanted oblong blurs, in the upper left quadrant of the photgraph, be *the actual projectiles*? That would be pretty remarkable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.221.130 (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, they probably are. Here's an even clearer example. Nick-D (talk) 07:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Bombing raid after atomic bombs
editOn the Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan#August_13.E2.80.9314 it has this...
"The United States Third Fleet began shelling the Japanese coast. In the largest bombing raid of the Pacific War, more than 400 B-29s attacked Japan during daylight on August 14, and more than 300 that night. A total of 1,014 aircraft were used with no losses.
In the longest bombing mission of the war, B-29s from the 315 Bombardment Wing flew 3,800 miles to destroy the Nippon Oil Company refinery at Tsuchizaki on the northern tip of Honshū. This was the last operational refinery in the Japan Home Islands and it produced 67% of their oil. After the war, the bombing raids were justified as already in progress when word of the Japanese surrender was received, but this is only partially true"
However, on this page it has...
"A further bombardment by King George V, three light cruisers and escorting destroyers was planned to be conducted against an unspecified Japanese target on 13 August. This attack was cancelled, however, due to the battleship developing mechanical problems and the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Allied fleet did not conduct any further bombardments as Japan surrendered on 15 August." Glen newell (talk) 03:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- What's in this article is correct. The other article appears to be using 'shelled' for 'raided' and is referring to the air raids the fleet conducted on this day. Nick-D (talk) 04:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
- Ohhhh. ok. "Bombardment" doesn't include air raids.... But then I checked Bombardment, and that has ..."and also as aerial bombardment if delivered by aircraft or long range missiles." So then, is the statement "The Allied fleet did not conduct any further bombardments" wrong? Seeing as the other wiki page documents what I guess can be called an "aerial bombardment" on August 14th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glen newell (talk • contribs) 05:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- While 'bombardment' can refer to aerial bombing, this is a bit unusual, as it's usually used to refer to shelling. I think that the combination of 'naval bombardments' in the title of the article makes it clear what this is about (the best title for an article on the air attacks would be Naval air raids on Japan or similar). Nick-D (talk) 07:45, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Photo of Bombing of Kamaishi by USS Indiana on 14th July
editI was wondering about the photo showing USS Indiana bombing Kamaishi on 14th July. Its clearly daytime when the photo was made but the article says the attack was in the night of 14th to 15th July. So is the article wrong and the time the bombardment started was 12:10 pm on 14th or at night, 12:10 am on 15th? --Bomzibar (talk) 16:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
- My mistake! It was actually 12:10 pm 14 July. I've fixed the lead, and thanks for pointing this out! Nick-D (talk) 22:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Reference
editI think there should be reference Eric I evergood (talk) 03:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 21 July 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) The Night Watch (talk) 00:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Allied naval bombardments of Japan during World War II → Allied naval bombardments of Japan – There was only one. Gryffindor (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Quadrantal (talk) 00:35, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. There is another Allied naval bombardment of Japan. See Shimonoseki campaign. —Srnec (talk) 01:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- These two articles have completely separate names from each other, a confusion is not possible. Gryffindor (talk) 20:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- "Allied naval bombardments of Japan" is a descriptive title. As a description, it could just as easily apply to the allied naval bombardments of the Shimonoseki campaign. Srnec (talk) 00:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- These two articles have completely separate names from each other, a confusion is not possible. Gryffindor (talk) 20:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I selected the current title when I started the article due to the Shimonoseki campaign, which also involved Japan being bombarded by warships from allied western countries. Nick-D (talk) 08:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)