Talk:All Elite Wrestling

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Thecleanerand in topic annual revenue dispute

Headquarters?

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I have not see any sources mention where the AEW headquarters are at, is the assumption that it will be at this location based on anything reliable? Or just a conclusion drawn from the Kahns involvement? MPJ-DK (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I think is assumption. I would remove it --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
That was my thought too, but I figured I'd ask first. MPJ-DK (talk) 22:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Best bet would be to remove it for now until officially confirmed. --HC7 (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Cody Rhodes, Matt and Nick Jackson are the company's inaugural contracted employees not founders

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Hello,

Cody Rhodes, Matt and Nick Jackson are the company's inaugural contracted employees not founders. Per Cody's Twitter there will be few more executive VPs as well. The Young bucks (Matt and Nick) probably aren't even inaugural employees [1].

ThanksDoilyminis (talk) 22:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oriental Wrestling Entertaniment

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Soemone as to create Oriental Wrestling Entertaniment it's now notable.

So will anyone create or should be created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:6A20:2F00:6C64:6835:456F:B0BB (talk) 23:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Just because they're affiliated with AEW doesn't make them notable. JTP (talkcontribs) 00:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
You are correct, but significant coverage in independent third-party reliable sources do and OWE actually had that prior to AEW so I wrote the article. MPJ-DK (talk) 17:14, 9 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Change logo to IDENTICAL logo activities

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I have pointed this out on Speedy Question Mark's page that it makes no sense to reupload the exact same logo under a different name, unless someone is trying to hide the history of the original image. Especially a 'Non Free' image like this. MPJ-DK (talk) 04:29, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

I'm not trying to hide anything... WHAT is there to hide anyway? I've already explained why but you keep ignoring what I'm saying! It just feels like you guys are making a mountain out of a molehill. Speedy Question Mark (talk) 13:42, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Your explanation was that you were trying to clean up old revisions. This is not a justifiable reason for uploading a duplicate image, AND those old revisions will be auto-deleted today. Wicka wicka (talk) 16:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
It was done in good faith because it looked rather messy in my opinion but I will stop. Speedy Question Mark (talk) 17:17, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Shahid's a founder?

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Isn't Shahid Khan just a investor not a founder, unlike his son Tony? Speedy Question Mark (talk) 18:33, 10 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Comments, February 2019

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The article looks to be in good shape. Kudos to everyone who worked for this throughout the past month! THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:55, 15 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Here are some of my comments for improvement:
  • In May 2017, journalist Dave Meltzer made a comment that the American professional wrestling promotion Ring of Honor (ROH) could not sell 10,000 tickets for a professional wrestling event. The comment was responded to by professional wrestlers Cody and The Young Bucks (the tag team of Matt and Nick Jackson), who were top stars signed to ROH and good friends both inside and outside of professional wrestling as part of the group Bullet Club (and, later, The Elite). - This part could be written in a much better way. Like why are Dave Meltzer and ROH so significant, and potentially WWE could be added to the mix. I am not sure about this, but I think overtime, the 10,000 seats thing will lose it's worth overtime. Just the All In event is enough and will work for the general audience.
  • Is it only Cody or Cody Rhodes?
  • Why isn't Brandy Rhodes mentioned in infobox as a key individual and on the lead as one of the inaugurals?
  • WP:ALL CAPS refs should be fixed asap. Make sure they are reliable according to WP:PW/RS.
  • What's the "SoCal Uncensored"?
SCU is a stable consisting of Frankie Kazarian, Christopher Daniels and Scorpio Sky. JTP (talkcontribs) 18:48, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
I feel like outside of match results we should refer to him as Cody Rhodes in the article. This is based off it being his WP: COMMONNAME. StaticVapor message me! 21:15, 16 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

One question. Why is Sonny Kiss listed under the female talent? I saw him during LU, but as far as I know, he is a man. Source doesn't mention he is part of the female division. Did I miss something?--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:12, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

About the comments. Use Cody Rhodes as promoter. During the matches and storylines (the character) just Cody. Brandi should be in the infobox. About The Elite, it's everything. It's a group of friend, they are promoters and also work as a stable. Maybe a mix between Perros del Mal, The Kliq and... any pro wrestling stable. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

I am going to merge male and female wreslters for WP:GNL. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 22:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Why? What's the point? I don't see why a distinction between male and female divisions enter into GNL. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:29, 18 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
I was just thinking that if AEW introduces intergender matches, then we might not need to have separate lists for males and females. All wrestlers will be the same and without gender specification to better GNL. Aside from that, Cody Rhodes' (and others') real name should be used if their any sources that mentions that in terms of business POV. Otherwise, Cody Rhodes or Cody, depending on what majority of the sources use. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:04, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Well, Cody Rhodes is the common name, but he can't use it during matches because WWE. Same as Fenix and Pentagon Jr, sources call them Pentagon Jr and Fenix even if they wrestle as Penta el 0M and King Fenix. As for the roster, I don't see how GNL enters here. If the promotion has two divisions, it would be divided, nothing wrong. Like AAA or CMLL, they have male wrestlers and minis, but it doesn't mean minis aren men, just they are in their own division. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:11, 21 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

  Note:Now is the best time to start archiving sources before they become jam-packed. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 21:13, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Contracts

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AEW wrestlers are not employees. The only ones who are employees are those who also have full-time backstage roles, e.g. Kenny Omega. Please stop adding this statement. Wicka wicka (talk) 17:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Do you have a source for that? Because the source that you removed, which is considered a reliable mainstream (that is, non-wrestling-specific) one, clearly states that they are, in contrast to WWE wrestlers' status as independent contractors, and that distinction is part of the appeal to signing with AEW. Your removal seems unfounded and removed important information. oknazevad (talk) 19:05, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
I read the source, it does NOT say that. Provide a quote immediately. Wicka wicka (talk) 19:08, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Read a bit closer: ...the men and women of AEW are employees and they deserve the benefits which come with that status. JTP (talkcontribs) 19:10, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
This is not a statement of fact. It is a comment on the way that wrestling promotions consider their wrestlers to be "independent contractors" and a suggestion that they should, instead, be considered employees. This is obvious if you read the entire paragraph, AND if you read the Deadspin article on which the Vice article is based, in which the author explicitly states:
"there were still plenty of questions concerning employee status and extending health insurance to wrestlers"
Find a source with someone from the company actually confirming all their wrestlers are employees. Wicka wicka (talk) 19:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Here are the details, it depends on the wrestler and their involvement, quoting Tony Kahn [2] . - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:19, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
This doesn't say all wrestlers are employees. In fact, it explicitly suggests otherwise. Again, the line as currently written in the article is a blatant lie. Wicka wicka (talk) 19:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oknazevad or NotTheFakeJTP, provide a source immediately that proves your claim or remove this sentence from the article. It is not acceptable that we are openly lying to our readers. Wicka wicka (talk) 19:23, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oknazevad/NotTheFakeJTP, how is it that you reverted my corrections so quickly, and had time to level accusations of edit warring at me just as quick, but now you fall silent? Wicka wicka (talk) 19:26, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

This is absolutely incredible. These two dudes are INSTANTLY here to revert my correction and to jump down my throat on this talk page. When it's explained that they're wrong, they vanish. Wicka wicka (talk) 19:54, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Dude, its been 30 minutes, you need to calm down. I agree with you, they are not all covered, thats been said many times, its depends on the wrestler and their role in the company. But you need to just calm down and give people a chance. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:59, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Did they give me a chance? They took barely 30 seconds to revert my corrections. Wicka wicka (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Well, when you remove sourced material with no evidence, it does look bad. I'm willing to wait for more definitive sources one way or the other. Galatz's source is a good start. oknazevad (talk) 21:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
I know Cagesideseats is not a RS, but this article [3] does a good job of summarizing everything, with a listing of sources for each item. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 21:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
oknazevad Let me make something abundantly clear, because I absolutely loathe when people trot out this argument: I do not have to, and often literally cannot, provide negative evidence to "disprove" a fabricated statement. You (or another editor, not sure who) misunderstood a source and wrote a sentence that was factually untrue, which claimed that all AEW wrestlers are employees. The fact that this is not true does not mean that I can always find a source that explicitly states that they are not employees. But I don't need to, because I am not the one making an assertion - YOU are. YOU asserted that all AEW wrestlers are employees, YOU must provide a source that proves that statement, and if you cannot prove that statement then it WILL be removed, regardless of what evidence I do or do not bring to the table. This is basic, fundamental logic. Wicka wicka (talk) 23:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply
Did you notice I removed it the most recent time? I now agree that it is an insufficient source for the claim (which was also ungrammatically written, too). oknazevad (talk) 23:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

I removed this, all the talk of permission and exclusivity was WP:SYNTH of the cited source. StaticVapor message me! 23:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Does this section even need to exists? All it says is that AEW doesn't reveal info about their contracts. That is true of pretty much EVERY wrestling promotion and the section adds nothing. 108.176.81.42 (talk) 00:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Cody, Bucks, and Kenny's real names vs ring names

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Should we keep Cody, Kenny, and The Bucks' real name or their ring names under the "Key people" section? Using their names just sounds a bit more professional. Or we could do "Cody Runnels (Cody Rhodes)". Just suggesting Jedi Striker (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Fake AEW website

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Somebody has changed the website link to ".org" which is obviously a fake AEW site, the real site is ".com". Speedy Question Mark (talk) 02:04, 9 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Speedy Question Mark: Where? I only see links to .com. StaticVapor message me! 02:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
Just as I expected; an IP added it to AEW's Wikidata page. JTP (talkcontribs) 03:12, 9 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Unified Event List Format for all Professional Wrestling promotions

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Are there any plans to modify the formatting for the event list to match other Professional Wrestling promotions?

WWE and New Japan Pro Wrestling (probably more) all use the following event list format:

Year

Date Event Venue Location Main Event
Date (without year) Event Name Venue name Location Name Example main event

Ring of Honor uses a slightly different format of the above, with an additional column for PPV number at the beginning.

NXT and now All Elite Wrestling cut the year header from above the event list and just add the year to the date column. NXT and AEW also have their venue and location columns transposed.

I'm not familiar with Wiki editing or how to make suggestions for entire groups of content, but I feel like this would be a good project to get uniformity between all Professional Wrestling promotions.

Zirekyle (talk) 01:03, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Zirekyle: You make a good point about the tables; making a thread at WT:PW will be the best way to contact a large group of pro wrestling editors. JTP (talkcontribs) 01:34, 21 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

AEW redirect

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I will be redirecting AEW to this page from Airborne early warning and control. Per the page views, it is the primary topic. starship.paint (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

I have reverted for now. Any redirect that long-standing should be more widely discussed, especially when the change appears that it may be a victim Of WP:RECENTISM. The discussion should be at WP:RFD in order to have the discussion on neutral ground, as it were. oknazevad (talk) 16:02, 27 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Please discuss at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 May 27#AEW. Thank you. starship.paint (talk) 11:36, 28 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Avoid YouTube as references

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I know that the company's storylines and production depends a lot on the YouTube channels but they are still primary sources. There are plenty of second hand coverage to replace them and I would encourage that. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 08:44, 22 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2019

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Add section call programming. Add TV show to section there. Add events as section under section. ImAWrestlingFan (talk) 21:48, 4 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
I believe this was the request [6]. Programming was all included in the "Formation" section which didn't really make sense. I bumped it down to its own subheader, which I think is what was more or less requested. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 13:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

List of current champions

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Hello, can we start an article about the current champions like all big wrestling promotions. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 20:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I created the article List of current champions in All Elite Wrestling. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Someone reverted my article. But there are also articles about List of current champions in WWE, List of current champions in Impact Wrestling, List of current champions in the National Wrestling Alliance and so on! Keep the article! --TheGoldenRule (talk) 16:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

There is no need for a separate article. Just because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesnt mean this needs its own. Its based on the size of the main article, the criteria for splitting it off is in WP:SPLIT - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Can someone please STOP Galatz deleting this article? AEW is the second most important wrestling promotion in the US today, so there is relevance for this article. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 19:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

You added nothing that cannot be found in this page. In addition it is not YOUR article, you do not WP:OWN it. There are guidelines as to what warrants a page and what doesn't for a reason, this definitely does not. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
I notice you changed your wording [7], yet still added the page back giving no justification besides for you want it. That is not a reason to create a page. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 19:49, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

You cannot delete the page, if you want! You have to go through a deletion process, nominate the article for deletion, then! --TheGoldenRule (talk) 19:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes I can, its called WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT. If you want me to nominate it, then fine, but there is no way it will not be deleted, so you are just wasting everyone's time. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 20:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Ok, then nominate it. Good Night--TheGoldenRule (talk) 20:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Some guy deleted the pictures of the champions in the last days. I reverted it back to the old version. If someone deletes the pictures again, I will call him for vandalism.--TheGoldenRule (talk) 09:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I don't think there's any specification within the company that women can't win the main title or the tag titles, so categorizing them by men and women might not be the best solution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:248:8200:FCC0:0:0:0:3F7B (talk) 05:20, 20 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

BTE Championship

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I flagged this article as disputed after seeing instances of WP:Edit warring; numerous users either including or excluding the BTE Championship in the Championships and Accomplishments section. The BTE title is a championship title recently featured in AEW's YouTube series Being the Elite. Rather than just fight over this with edits, I would prefer if we discussed here whether it is valid to include the championship on this page or not. AlexKitfox (talk) 01:58, 25 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sections on champions

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@TheGoldenRule: Why do you feel the article is benefitted by duplicating the sections both above and below? What are the sections you're re-adding contributing to the article? — Czello 12:57, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
Also, if you want to talk about what is or isn't an argument -- "I care" is not one. — Czello 12:59, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Alright. I created a new article. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 13:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

STOP deleting the infromation in the NEW article! I deleted the information in the main article cause I created a new article just for the champions. Every big wrestling promotion has an article about their champions!--TheGoldenRule (talk) 13:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

If you revert my article again, I call you for VANDALISM!--TheGoldenRule (talk) 13:48, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

It's a duplication. I know you're upset your text was deleted, but it doesn't have a place here. Please read WP:OTHERSTUFF. — Czello 13:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Alright, then you should also delete List of current champions in ROH, List of current champions in Impact Wrestling, List of current champions iN WWE and so on. It's the same. It is also duplication. So your argument doesnt count. I will call you for vandalism. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 13:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I am begging you to read WP:OTHERSTUFF. This is really not a good argument. — Czello 13:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

This is really not a good argument. Btw, the information was KEPT in the main article for at least 20 days until you came around. --TheGoldenRule (talk) 14:01, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

WP:OTHERSTUFF is actually the exact argument you need to be reading, especially where it relates to your other article. How long it was here before is also irrelevant. I'll ask again, do you have a reason this should be included that doesn't boil down to "other articles do it too"? — Czello 14:50, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Your logic is stupid. Then you should also delete these articles List of current champions in WWE, List of current champions in Impact Wrestling, List of current champions in Ring of Honor, List of current champions in the National Wrestling Alliance. These articles have the SAME standards as List of current champions in All Elite Wrestling. AEW is the second most important wrestling promotion in the United States so there is relevance for this article.--TheGoldenRule (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

I don't know how many times I need to tell you to read WP:OTHERSTUFF, but that article literally tells you why your logic doesn't follow. However, you might have a point -- perhaps they should be deleted. — Czello 17:28, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
To jump in and cite WP:SPLIT, WWE and the other companies have separated pages to reduce their size, as they would likely be overly large with them included. As AEW is a more recent company, it doesn't have the length of those other articles, so can have Championships included. Honestly those pages are quite small and would likely benefit from a more thourough refactor of some form anyway. Also GoldenRule, the procedure for correctly splitting an article is on WP SPLIT, it doesn't include making the page without discussion. Ragepyro (talk) 21:48, 18 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2021

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The portion of the Championships section that mentions the companies and belts AEW have used on their programming via the Forbidden Door includes MLW and its Middleweight belt despite nothing MLW-related ever occurring on AEW and thus should be removed. BadGirlRyleigh (talk) 07:13, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MLW isn't mentioned in the article. Sceptre (talk) 11:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

At the time that I made this request, yes, the article did mention MLW. Someone already took care of the issue I had with the article and removed it and the other titles from outside promotions. It was unnecessary information and some of it was false BadGirlRyleigh (talk) 16:28, 10 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

FTW Title Clarification

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It should be noted that the FTW championship while being defended on AEW it is not a "AEW Sanctioned" championship by the promotion, the holder does not get counted as a champion under the rules of the promotion. Only the TNT, Heavyweight, Women's, Tag, and TBS titles are recognized as real titles in AEW. Jayd313316 (talk) 20:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

There was a note that labelled it as unsanctioned, but it appears to have been removed. I've restored it. — Czello 20:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2021

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In the table that shows the AEW champions. It is currently listed that Cody Rhodes is in his 1st reign as tnt champion. He is actually in his 3rd reign. Chrisskirving (talk) 15:47, 23 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2022

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AEW Games is the video game publishing branch of All Elite Wrestling. The branch is currently overseeing development for multiple video games, including two mobile games and one home console game, developed by KamaGames, Crystallized Games, and Yuke's respectively.

In the video games section 112.213.214.123 (talk) 04:47, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Ownership

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Tony Khan doesn't own All Elite Wrestling. It's only owner is his father Shahid Khan via five of his Trusts (his very own, and two for the benefit of Tony and his sister). Therefore it would be better to either name those five trusts as the Owners and neither Shahid nor Tony. Or if naming the person behind those trusts it has to be only Shahid Khan.

Source: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=ALLELITEWRESTLING%20M190000057600&aggregateId=forl-m19000005760-e71787fe-89d4-49d4-8095-e177c6966d01&searchTerm=All%20Elite%20Wrestling&listNameOrder=ALLELITEWRESTLING%20M190000057600

RAWFanSmackDown (talk) 10:24, 3 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

That is a bit dubious at best. Hell, Tony Khan has referred to himself as owner several times. The fact that he isn't listed as a Member is dubious at best as the membership list isn't always up to as filed. retched (talk) 03:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Matt and Nick Jackson vs Matt Jackson, Nick Jackson

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Key People > Executive Vice Presidents has them listed as a single unit. I understand their article is about both of them, however should they not be listed as seperate people, linking to the same article? 13hunteo (talk) 15:19, 12 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

"AEW Women's Tag Team Championship" listed at Redirects for discussion

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  The redirect AEW Women's Tag Team Championship has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 15 § AEW Women's Tag Team Championship until a consensus is reached. Mann Mann (talk) 13:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

World's Best Wrestling

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Someone should mention in this article that Tony Khan's original name for All Elite Wrestling was going to be World's Best Wrestling 2600:1017:B10E:FFF3:0:46:1BA6:F301 (talk) 21:19, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

annual revenue dispute

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I highly doubt that content farms like Screen Rant (or any website with "Rant" in its title) & Forbes (anyone willing to pay a fee can be a "contributor" for their website; to say nothing of the scammers the magazine itself has promoted) are reliable sources to comment on AEW's revenue. The lone quote on the Screen Rant citation was "In just over 3 years, AEW has become the second most prominent wrestling promotion behind WWE." They didn't provide ANY reference to back that up.

It's public knowledge that AEW has made around an estimated $100-200M between 2022 & 2023 and remains unprofitable. The only reason AEW can be considered the second largest promotion in the world is at the expense of New Japan Pro Wrestling; according to Bushiroad's finance reports.

In other words, Forbes $2B estimate is bullshit. You might as well be citing CNBC. Thecleanerand (talk) 08:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply