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Latest comment: 13 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion
To an anonymous editor who continues to remove a sourced statement that Aliya is Kazakh on the grounds that she is not: please read the Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Unless a satisfactory source showing that she is Tatar (or at least that she is not Kazakh) can be supplied, this one (stating she is Kazakh) will have to do. Please do not add/remove information which you are unable to source at all. Thank you.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:55, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
In the source there is no suggestion about her ethnicity. A lot of persons from Kazakhstan who are not ethnic kazakhs have been repeatedly called so because of the country they're from. Especially in the non-Russian language articles, but many times also in the Russian articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.210.193.153 (talk) 15:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
The very first line of the source (preceding the actual interview) states that she is Kazakh. I personally do not care if she is Kazakh, Tatar, or Cardassian—all I care about is that we have a source that states her ethnicity, no source stating otherwise, and you persistently removing the source because somehow you know better. As far as WP:V goes, the provided source is good enough. If you have another source stating her ethnicity differently, feel free to present it here, I will gladly help add it. I have semi-protected the article in the meanwhile to avoid further meaningless reverts. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:45, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
In her interview she said, that knows only two languages which are Kazakh and Russian.
So, if you still keep claiming that she is Tatar, please get some proofs of it, balabol.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.46.113.93 (talk) 21:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
Please don't resort to namecalling; that does not help. If we only had what she said in the interview, that would not have been sufficient—one can be of Tatar ethnicity without knowing a word in Tatar. The source's first sentence, however, explicitly states that she is Kazakh ("Самая успешная представительница азиатской художественной гимнастики – казашка Алия Юсупова новогодние подарки для родных и близких, скорее всего, будет выбирать в Москве"). That is more than enough for us to state that she is Kazakh. Of course, if someone can present a different (and hopefully higher quality) source stating otherwise, it will be considered with all due diligence.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:29, March 6, 2009 (UTC)
My friend, she is from mixed marriage and the nearest proof is her name. Aliya Mukhtarovna Yussupova. Yussup (Joseph) sounds like Jussup (almost like Jessup) in Kazakh. Check it with any lihguist you want.--84.54.72.47 (talk) 13:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)Reply
Well. Get some proofs of her mixed ethnicity. Jussup is really more common name in Kazakh languge then Yussup, but don't forget that in Russian "transcription" it has been transformated to more habitual for Russian speaking people form Yussup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.46.106.213 (talk) 04:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
