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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Alicia McCormack, a member of the Australia women's national water polo team, received a bow from Prince William at a Sydney barbecue?

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Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
  • Firstly: This is an encyclopedia. Being acknowledged by a prince with similar interests is nice, at the moment. It might make a news story. But it is not an event of encyclopedia importance. To be mentioned as the second sentence of someone's biography, that a member of the Royal Family once briefly acknowledged them is not appropriate. It's like the song that was around in 1930 "I know a girl who knows a girl who danced with the Prince of Wales..."
On the other hand it is a good hook for a DYK, which is essentially "first page promotion" of your article and a "what's new" for Wikipedia.
  • Secondly: An extremely stupid bit of journalism had been used as a quote. It said that McCormack "literally brought the prince to his knees..."
Bowing doesn't "bring a man to his knees". Not unless he curtsied. I don't supposed he was wearing a dress, so the chances are, he didn't curtsey.
People are brought to their knees in prayer, in fear, in grief and when they are proposing marriage, but not when they bow.
Well, more remarkable things have happened! One young Australian woman who met a prince at a sporting event is now his wife.
Are we to believe that Prince William proposed to Alicia McCormack? If he didn't, then he wasn't "brought to his knees."

Amandajm (talk) 01:32, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: Secret (talk · contribs) 05:50, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Article is neutral, image is free, I don't see any concerns of close paraphrasing in a quick glance. It has a good start, here's two things that jumped on my mind, will finish reviewing when I get on first thing tomorrow morning.

  1. Three consecutive sentences that starts with she in the introduction. Reword or combine an sentence.
  2. Any information regarding her playing skills, strengths, praise from teammates and coaches? Most good or featured articles about athletes has that type of information, and being an current Olympian, that information would be helpful.

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I've reworded the lead a tad - hopefully that is more what you were after - and I'll get to work on the skills section asap. :) Thanks! - Bilby (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ok let me finish this review.

  1. The second sentence indicates that she's as notable as an teacher, which I don't think it's the case, so that should be removed out of the lead, or moved to the last sentence of the lead.
  2. Any major achievements with her team while in high school?
  3. Do you know why she was injured?
  4. I'm surprised that Australia women's national water polo team was linked in the third paragraph, doesn't all her events from the 2003 Holiday Cup were as a member of the squad?
  5. I still think that some content about her ability as a player should be mentioned to understand her Water Polo achievements better. Examples include positive feedback about her playing ability named by her coach, teammates or rival players, commentary about her playing style, and even about her personality. The water polo section just lists all her important matches that she plays and not much else.

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  1. Citation 2 is a primary source, but it's ok to be used in this content, everything matches there. Only concern is that "In 2010, McCormack was working..." citation 2 don't mention it, but citation one does so remove, but that's a minor issue.
  2. Citation 10 only says that she flew to join the team, a better citation is needed.
  3. Citations 5, 13, 17, 22 all check out.

Once my concerns be fixed, which should be quick, the article is good to go as I don't see any major issues though I can't really discuss about grammar. Thanks Secret account 02:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry about taking so long to respond. I had to go back to the USA for about 2 weeks last minute and dissertation panic.
    1. Moved "Currently working at the New South Wales Institute of Sport, McCormack holds a Bachelor of Primary Education. " to the end of the lead. (Tendency to strictly follow summary style in my lead writing.)
    2. Have not seen any major accomplishments in high school. In Australia, high school isn't generally as the important one. Club tends to trump that.
    3. No idea why/how she was injured. Sources I have don't say why/how.
    4. Moved linking for Australia women's national water polo team around. (Editing style problem of things sometimes get stuck where I first put them, even as articles evolve.)
    5. Haven't seen much in terms of praise of her play in the sources. Gut check from the sources and reading between the lines: She is a utility player who does a good team player. She isn't an all star on the team. Thus, they aren't talking about her as much. Early newspaper sources might talk about her ability to be awesome but not much of that can I find.
Citation issue...
    1. That is sourced because [2] does nominally support it as says she works for the NSWIS and is an executive assistant. Hence inclusion.
    2. Added citation to bolster what was [10] which says she is on the roster.
--LauraHale (talk) 22:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

I meant that the source doesn't mention where she works for, just that she's an executive assistant, but citation 1 does the job as well, sorry for the confusion. Other than that it's good to go. Thanks Secret account 22:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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