Talk:Alexa Bliss

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2016

AglowGnu (talk) 21:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

SmackDown (2016–present)

On July 19, Bliss was drafted to the SmackDown brand as the forty-seventh overall pick in the 2016 WWE draft.

Raw Womens Champion

Alexa Bliss is the Current Raw Women Champion. thumb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.33.67.180 (talk) 10:34, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Raw section edit request from Oct 8, 2017

In the sentence "On June 4, she retained her over Bayley", there should be a "title" between "her" and "over" Btvs7 (talk) 03:46, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Done JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2018

She doesn't call it "Bliss DDT" 2605:E000:C984:B400:B978:1E96:9412:2C4D (talk) 10:34, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 10:57, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

ALEXA bLISS

I THINK SOMEONE SHOULD EDIT THE THE TITLE OF THIS SUBJECT: RAW WOMEN'S CHAMPION (2017-PRESENT). INSTEAD I THINK SOMEONE COULD CHANGE THE SUBJECT TITLE TO RAW WOMEN'S CHAMPION (2017-2018). I HOPE NOBODY THINKS I'M DISRESPECTFUL. I WOULD CHANGE IT IF I COULD BUT THE WEBSITE WILL NOT LET ME. ANYBODY WHO IS ABLE TO PLEASE CHANGE. I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET CONFUSED OR DISREPECTFUL AND SAY THAT WIKIPEDIA IS A HORRIBLE SOURCE BECAUSE IT TRULY ISN'T.

ΚṔ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.196.122 (talk) 20:24, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Alexa Bliss IS NOT THE CURRENT RAW WOMEN"S CHAMPIoN

ACtually she is not the raw women's champion Nia Jax is!!!!!96.235.25.221 (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2018 (UTC)KHLO

Age

Alexa Bliss is now 27 years old Damifk (talk) 15:37, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Marital Status

Per multiple sources she has been single for several months just FYI

So there is something fishy about this. It was reported by a reliable source (ProWrestlingSheet), with their source being someone "close to Alexa Bliss". They go on to say that the two have not been dating since September [1]. However, in this interview with Murphy from January 2019 he talks about their relationship. So either Pro Wrestling Sheet is getting bad information or they are only wrong about them not being together since September. StaticVapor message me! 02:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

if i had to bet i'd say it's the latter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.123.139 (talk) 05:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

She is officially single. Her and buddy murphy are no longer engaged TJMONEY515 (talk) 17:04, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@TJMONEY515: Did you read my post above? StaticVapor message me! 20:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Just saw that my bad..

Triple crown

Please acknowledge that she is the second female triple crown champion, as she held both sd and raw women championships and now the tag team. Nawfdallas (talk) 00:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2019

remove engaged to buddy murphy they broke up Bobos2d (talk) 02:38, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:06, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

wrestling persona, more recognition

Can whoever edits this wikipage add a wrestling persona or just make her wikipage stand out more and recognize alexas achievements and improvements, much thanks! Julie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie1893 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Fix this

Bayley pinned Cross at Extreme Rules, not Bliss.176.36.57.234 (talk) 02:00, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Alexa Bliss is a Face

Alexa Bliss turned Face in the midst of a double team turn. Markerns111 (talk) 21:08, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

WWE Draft

Alexa Bliss was drafted to WWE Monday Night Raw Markerns111 (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2019

States the lexi beat the miz, cesaro and rusev when she beat Jack instead of the miz for the upupdowndown championship 82.6.237.118 (talk) 22:20, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 00:12, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2020

Thenerddogg (talk) 10:09, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

The Line (Kaufman writes left-handed needs to be added) in personal life tab.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2020

Please delete the following sentence and associated source; "They got engaged on November 14th 2020". The source is illegal as seen in WP:UGC. 2001:8003:5022:5E01:B195:2E68:5766:5817 (talk) 03:45, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done, WP:UGC doesn't apply in WP:SPS cases. Since sources come from the subject's official Instagram account and she is not making any extra-ordinary claim, this is reliable. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:UGC cancels WP:SPS. Please remove as seen in my request. (Hate my IP changing all the time!) 2001:8003:5022:5E01:845B:6601:8DF8:1E03 (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: IP user, if you just went one section down to WP:ABOUTSELF you would have found that "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field." None of the sub-criteria apply here as well. I concur with User:Fylindfotberserk. Melmann 22:49, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Partially implemented @Melmann: - Actually that only applies if there are no independent reliable sources to confirm it - and even then it should only be used with caution. Also, Alexa is not a marriage counsellor or similar so I disagree with your assertion that she's an expert in the field. The same is true AFAIK with Maria. In this case though there are independent reliable sources. So I'm correcting your note after correcting the sources to a proper one. Addicted4517 (talk) 23:04, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Addicted4517: Please cite policy which asserts that WP:ABOUTSELF does not apply where independent reliable source exists. Furthermore, I did not assert she was an expert, you may have misread the sentence I quoted from policy. It says "without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field". So, she does NOT need to be an expert because the claim is about herself. In any case this is all moot because TMZ is not considered a reliable source. It is a 'no consensus' source. See WP:TMZ. Thus, your actions weaken the strength of the sourcing for this statement, not strengthen it.Melmann 23:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

@Addicted4517: I concur with with Melmann here. Please go through WP:ABOUTSELF. Using an independent secondary source is better but there is no consensus at WP:RSPUSE on whether TMZ is reliable. Anyway, I've replaced it with reliable sources People (considered reliable at WP:RSP) and WWE.com (industry specific). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:15, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

@Melmann: & @Fylindfotberserk: - I'll divide this into two parts. First, thank you for the correction about TMZ. I was not aware that it's status as a reliable source was under that cloud. I won't use it in the future, and in fact it was also used for the dating note prior to the engagement. Thank you also for the excellent replacements. I don't remember seeing it on WWE.com and I'm a bit surprised as well given Alexa's current storyline with Bray Wyatt. FWIW.

But why are you totally ignoring WP:SPS? Where does it say that WP:ABOUTSELF cancels it out? From what I can tell the two should work together, with the caution noted in WP:SPS truly important, especially for a BLP. It is also there that we have the note about independent reliable sources. My understanding - especially in BLPs - is that independent reliable sources take priority on Wikipedia. When they exist, we don't need self published sources so both SPS and ABOUTSELF are irrelevant. Surely that's the case? For myself, when it comes to highly personal announcements like this I believe that the claim fails point 1 of ABOUTSELF. I say these things in the past tense per se as the matter has been fully solved. Addicted4517 (talk) 07:29, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome Addicted4517. Coming to the point, please check the following excerpt from the above policy:

Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:

1. the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim;

2. it does not involve claims about third parties;

3. it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source;

4. there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; and

5. the article is not based primarily on such sources.

Note the ones bolded. If Miss Bliss here had been claiming to be a US Marine, a Presidential candidate, or a gymnast in the Olympics, than it would have been extraordinary, but in this case she confirmed her engagement with Cabrera, with whom she'd been dating for quite sometime. This is nothing extra-ordinary IMO. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:48, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Three points. One - is this from WP:SPS totally irrelevant? "Exercise caution when using such sources: if the information in question is suitable for inclusion, someone else will probably have published it in independent reliable sources. Bolding is mine and it should not be irrelevant at all.

Two - my point had nothing to do with an exceptional claim. It was to do with being unduly self serving. "I'm engaged to be married" in the manner depicted on Instagram is just that IMO (to echo your use of the same acronym). Being excited - even with good reason - is unduly self serving in the context of an encyclopedia. It's the perfect reason to seek independent reliable sources per WP:SPS first.

Three - I have a serious issue with a policy that to the five dot points you used allows for Tumblr and Reddit, especially Reddit which is notorious in it's violations of all applicable rules in reliability AFAIK. Addicted4517 (talk) 10:07, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

You have to consider verified accounts/handles. Things like age, height, etc, are contentious in an SPS, but if a person says she is engaged to a person (the one with whom she's been dating for quite sometime) it is not. However it is always better to replace it with reliable secondary sources when available, but a lot of the things might not be covered in the press immediately after an event. Also note that the RS sources are using the very Instagram post shared by the subject as their source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

An issue comes up here. I had a view a little while back that put verified social media accounts as good, and those that are not as not on full stop. I was challenged on this, with the user wanting to know what rule this was. I tried to explain the verification process in social media but they insisted on a rule on Wikipedia - or they would use the social media account as a source. It caused an edit war. That's why I'm treating social media sources per WP:SPS - with caution. All of them. So I think we need a rule there to fix that up. Meanwhile, we should really wait for independent sources instead of putting something up immediately. Knee jerk reactions are risky. I would also point out that the RS's in this case would have checked to make sure the Instagram post was true first before using it as their source. It's what makes them reliable sources after all. And it's in WWE's interest to know, especially after what happened with the public announcement of the engagement of Rusev and Lana awhile ago, fouling up their storyline at the time. Addicted4517 (talk) 07:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

is this article about alexa bliss? or lexi kauffman? can we include pure kayfabe?

i have a question about who this article is discussing... i'm thinking... just me... that for fastlane 2020 we should mention the fact that "alexa bliss" is now magic. lexi kaufman is not magic... but is this article about kauffman? or bliss? how far down the kayfabe road can we go? the title and URL says bliss... so i'm wondering if we need to detail her magical abilities, as that is now part of her character. but i legitimately have no idea if that is kosher to mention so matter of factly here. i have several edits in notepad with times and sources ready to go... i just want to know what the general perception is of this because those things have not been mentioned here yet, so was that by design? or was it just people didnt think to mention it? Keithyhuntington (talk) 06:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

New name: Cabrera

She has started to use the new name "Cabrera" on her social media accounts (Instagram and Twitter). She posted: New name. New frame of mind. #Cabrera. Mann Mann (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

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'With that win, she is the first woman in WWE history to have won every championship available to women in WWE on the main roster.'

Ugh, women are FORBIDDEN to compete for the WWE, universal, US, intercontinental titles? Thewriter006 (talk) 22:23, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, this sentence isn't accurate given that for the majority of time in WWE women have only been eligible for one title. I'll remove it. — Czello 14:22, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Marriage license not found in any state

If she is claimed to be married why is there no marriage license been turned into Florida or California? She isn't a Cabrera until one is turned into a state. This is a matter of public record as is any marriage license 2600:1700:3EBC:9550:2D57:9519:8772:22E5 (talk) 04:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Alexa maybe pretend married , but Alexis kaufman isn't an Never has been married?( is matter of public record) is thisa tabloid??

If you can't find a marriage license for her, it's because she isn't married an is engaged to me(Brian Smith) 2600:1700:3EBC:9550:850A:7FF0:AEBC:644 (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2023 (UTC)