Talk:Albert Ekka

NPOV

This article has quite a few problems when it comes to neutral point of view. It used to be (literally) a clone on the Indian Army website page. We need to fix it up. --queso man 22:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The article still seems to have a problem... why is the word "enemy" used? The war was against to "enemy" should be replaced with Pakistan. Using "enemy is POV. Vivek 01:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The word enemy is used as India and Pakistan have declared war [1] on each other as defined in terms of Hague convention governing the conduct of hostilities between one and more sovereign nations forming part of the comity of nations as understood in the context of international law- and, at that particular point of time both the countries were enemies. The citation by the Government of India also uses the word enemy, and it is very common to use the term enemy in such citations. --Bhadani (talk) 18:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Please also read the opening words of Victoria Cross article on this encyclopedia: The Victoria Cross (VC) is the highest recognition for valour "in the face of the enemy" that can be awarded to members of the armed forces of some Commonwealth countries — and before them some British Empire personnel. It may be awarded to a person of any rank in any service, and civilians under military command. The Victoria Cross was introduced in 1856 and had been awarded 1,356 times. Please note that Param Vir Chakra also uses the word enemy, and Param Vir Chakra replaced Victoria Cross when India got independence from foreigners who had ruled India for centuries. Please also note that once the countries at war stop hostilities, they revoke the status of being at war. Technically, many countries had remained at war years after the hostilities had ended. For example, even after the end of the Second World War in 1945, Japan continued to be treated as an enemy nation for many years until September, 1951 when the Treaty of San Francisco was signed, and this "served to officially end World War II." --Bhadani (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

However, Vivek you are right to an extent: after the word, enemy, Pakistan should be suffixed. But, it shall not be exactly true - when two nations are at war under International law, soldiers of warring countries are fighting and they are 'enemies' for each other. Citations while awarding such medals state the circumstances of fighting the enemies in the sense of human beings and not in the term of a country, that is, a sovereign state. I think that the matter stands resolved to your satisfaction. In case, you are still not satisfied, please message me. Fine. --Bhadani (talk) 18:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure, point taken... Vivek 21:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Postage Stamp

Use of image of Postage stamps issed by the Republic of India to illustrate a page for a person who was awarded the highest miltary award of Republic of India is a fair use, and implicitely legal. --Bhadani 12:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Based on above legal position I rolled back the latest edit which had removed reference to the image resulting into tagging of that image as "orphan." Rollback should be understood in this context. --Bhadani 12:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Go read Wikipedia:Fair use more carefully. The image needs to add to the article in some way, not just be there for its own sake, and it needs to add to the article in a way that is relevant to the stamp, not to the person. For instance if the choice of background colors has a political significance, it is a fair use if the article/caption discusses that. Significance of the individual is irrelevant, there are thousands of people on stamps, and India Post clearly insists on control of the usage of stamp images. Stan 12:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I "went" there immediately and read. I could not find anything that precludes the use of the "stamp" in this page. However, if you are sure of the position, you are welcome to revert the page to the earlier position. If you so wish, I shall do the same. --Bhadani 12:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I studied the issue further, and I am removing the stamp. I also thank you for your guidance in the matter. You are right. --Bhadani 12:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleting contents

Please avoid deleting existing contents unilaterally without proper discussion. Thanks. --Bhadani (talk) 15:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 17:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)